Does Horde have a distinct advantage in AV?

[Drinknblink-nightslayer]

Not much you can do with scenario 3 as alliance.

You can’t out reinforce horde in any position at SHGY or south of it.

You soft cap ibgy horde can out reinforce you from their cave and retake it before it flips in 5m.

You take FWGY same thing

You take SFGY sake thing.

You take RHGY same thing

You retake SHGY the game just restarts

Horde will always out reinforce ally and then send them to SPGY when they die and out of the fight.

This is why ally always end up trapped up north with scenario 3.

This is also why the premade discord came out.

Ally tried stealth groups south and ghost walking to control a graveyard, literally every strat alliance did can’t counter the IBGY/Cave rez.

It was all outlined in the 9k thread from 2019, just read what Hawne wrote.

AV Cave Rez situation

I am 100% horde until the day I die (and have never and will never roll an alliance character), but the cave situation in AV is a disaster. How is it possible that Blizzard is ignoring the most obvious imbalance in any WoW PVP map/scenario ever implemented by this company? Can we get a mod or somebody on the developer team to at least comment as to why the AV map is being left in such an imbalanced fashion after being out for 6+ months? If there’s some rational purpose to this, then I’d like …

@Hawne-blaumeux

It is far more difficult for alliance to hold IB GY or FW GY for this reason. Even a smaller group of less than 20 horde defenders can easily reclaim IB GY and FW GY before they cap from a much larger group of alliance. That isn’t possible for the alliance at SH GY since they rez much further away.

Thus, horde has a straightforward offensive strategy of taking SH GY after alliance leave (or overpowering their turtle if they don’t go on offense) and establishing that as our forward operating graveyard. There is no equivalent for the alliance on the south side of the map because they can’t take and hold any of the southern graveyards against the horde cave rezzing defense.

Any sense of balance is destroyed by this fact. And this is the reason why there’s no offensive meta for alliance. Other than having a premade (like Incendius was doing) or severely imbalanced teams enabling alliance to take and hold GYs, there’s no winning strategy for the alliance side.