Does every "Cosmic Force" have their own form of Pantheon?

So from my understanding, there’s 6 cosmic forces in the WoW universe.

Life - Light - Disorder - Order - Shadow - Death

So are there “Pantheons” that have been put in charge of each force?

So:

Life:

  • Leader: Elune
  • Champions: Unknown
    • WIld Gods

Light:

  • Leader: Unknown
  • Champions: The Keepers (Unknown)
    • Naruu

Disorder:

  • Leader: Sargeras (Unknown?)
  • Champions: Unknown (Sargeras?) (Was Sargeras maybe working for someone?)
    • Pit Lords

Order:

  • Leader: Aman’Thul
  • Champions: Eonar, Norgannon, Golganneth, Khaz’goroth, Aggramar
    • Azeroth’s Champions (players)

Shadow:

  • Leader: Unknown
  • Champions: The Void Lords (Unknown)
    • Old Gods

Death:

  • Leader: Zovaal
  • Champions: The Archon, Winter Queen, Denathrius, The Primus
    • Paragons, The Court, etc…



Are all these “Pantheons” relatively equal in power?

Did Sargeras ascend to the “leader” of Disorder by killing the previous Disorder’s “leader” or “Champions” or was he just working for someone else?

Did Aman’Thul and/or Elune grow concerned with Zovaals power or motives and work with the “Champions of Death” (Winter Queen, Archon, etc) to imprison him?

(Was he tipping the scales too far into Death, causing Elune (life) to be concerned and want him imprisoned)

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the forces are, between the pantheon member exist big differences in terms of power and influence.

I mean, imagine, sargeras was even before his fel-crusade the strongest titan among the pantheon of order and therefore their champion.

Or the eternal ones and Zoval, Zoval is alone almost equally strong as all the eternal ones as a whole.

Sargeras was trying to use fragments of the Titans souls to create a pantheon of Disorder, which suggests that no, not all the cosmic forces have a pantheon, only ones that have been ‘ordered’ by the Titans.

Each Titan in the Order Pantheon represents at least one other cosmic force, Eonar is Life, Argus is Death, Tyr is Light, etc. Im sure there’s going to be some explanation at some point on how Titan souls are used to create Pantheons.

Tyr isn´t a Titan :smiley: he ´s a titanforge, Aggramar, did you mean aggramar?

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Yeah, possibly. Thank you for pointing that out! He was using Eonar, Aggramar and two other’s souls to created a new Pantheon in Legion…only 4 Titan souls.

We know that Sargeras never dove too deep into the Nether and that deep in the Nether dwelled beings so powerful that even Sargeras never…tried to recruit them. Presumably, this is the Pantheon of Chaos.

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Possibly. It would be interesting to see where the demons came from, but I imagine they are a lot like the Void Lords, where they are out of our field of perception, being higher dimensional beings.

WoW would need to introduce an abstract tessaract concept in astrophysics, to see them.

I can imagine that they do not have a fixed form but are a kind of…wafting energy form that exists in constant change.

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That’s what I mean, is there a “leader” of disorder that corrupted or influenced Sargeras to become one of his “champions.”

Basically, I was wondering:

  • Shadow and Light were doing their own thing, corrupting the universe.

  • Disorder’s “Leader” started tipping the scales, and with the corruption and influence over Sargeras, started destroying worlds. Death was increasing faster than Life. (Hence causing more disorder)

  • With worlds dying across the universe, Zovaal was growing in immense power, which concerned Elune. (Life)

  • Elune sought help from Aman’Thul in imprisoning Zovaal and creating the Arbiter to take his place.

  • Disorder’s “Leader” working with Sargeras, Denathrius and the Dreadlords, sought to “free” Zovaal with the death of a “Trojan Horse” Argus.

Did Life and Order teamed up to gain “control.”

So Disorder and Death teamed up to counter?

Not that this is known

Where did you get that idea?

I don’t think so, we don’t know of any being that has had a greater display of power than Elune, who created multiple stars in one second.

its possible that elune stays above the foodchain compared to all other pantheons, or is even a first one, who knows ^^

You know in retrospect the Disorder Branch seems to be severely underpowered.

Their main agents are from the Death Branch.
Their generals and elite soldiers are Eredar a mortal but advanced civilization.
Their Leader who ascended above all of them is a Titan from the Order Branch at the point if take all the other Branches and mortal races away from Disorder what do they really have?

Infernals and imps?

Just a theory I was wondering with Elune having more of an influence in Shadowlands.

Wasn’t sure if that was the Cosmic Map’s “balance.”

Order keeps Disorder in line.
Life keeps Death in line.
Shadow keeps Light in Line.

and vice versa…

Question becomes, have two of these cosmic forces “teamed up?” and what happens if two of these “cosmic forces team up?”

I think it was Danuser who once said that this happens regularly when several of the forces join one forces when one of the forces becomes too powerful to fight back alone.

Chronicle said that there are a bunch of immensely powerful demons deep in the Nether that the Legion was too scared of to contact.

Well the Void has the Void Lords as their Pantheon, but they are not a thing you’d want to be near. They are basically sentient black holes. There are apparently a whole lot of them.

The Light I have a strong suspicion is sort of the inverse, and sort of singular. That might be in the form of a single Light Lord, or a pantheon with a collective consciousness directed to one goal.

The Titans seem very ignorant of the other cosmic planes by design. The moment Sargeras was made aware of forces unable to be ordered he basically malfunctioned.

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That’s what I was wondering.

Was “disorder’s Leader” purposefully making Zovaal more powerful to cause more disorder, and is [it] trying to free Zovaal so he could continue.

Just wanted to know if that was the “structure” to the cosmic map.

First Ones

  • Life - Order - Death, Etc
    Leader: X
    Champions: ABC
    • Everyone else

It’s possible that every force will have a pantheon, but its important to remember that it’s not guaranteed to happen, like so many assume. Maybe Fel is ruled by three demons, maybe Life is ruled over by a singular Elune, maybe Light really just stops at thousands of Naaru.

The rulers of each cosmic force are the ones that just happen to be the strongest weilders of that force. Nothing is baked into physics that demands a pantheon of X members for each.

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The pantheon of a Force is something like the greatest champion of that Force, not the leader of that Force.

They are the most powerful representative faction of that Force.

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This at least we know is not true, as we know the Naaru have “keepers”; it seems more like the Naaru are more equivalent to the Old Gods than a pantheon proper. Just like pure void cannot exist in the Mortal plane, it seems highly likely pure light cannot either.

What they lack in strength, they make up for in numbers and regeneration. There may also be stronger demons in the nether.