It is a gearing issue, not an ability issue…
if they had Tier Sets for Feral, they would be on par with other melee
Druid tank for everything up till raids
From there idk but warriors suck ballz at dungeon tanking compared to bears
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I am main tanking Rag and Onyxia. Leader of the pack plus a dedicated fairie fire is awesome for the raid. There isn’t a raid boss out right now I can’t tank as well as a warrior. People need to wise up and open their minds a bit. Feral druids were garbage in early vanilla, this patch they are actually solid. In addition, we will always do more damage in cat than an offtank warrior and we barely need any loot out of MC so gearing a feral tank doesn’t interfere with the Warriors.
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Lets be real: speed running classic is really pointless and even boomkin druids have utility.
More raid groups are seeing this, and enjoy your druid! Who cares about top meters in classic if everyone lives and loots?
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I don’t know how you’ve seen them do top damage I havnt even seen a single feral Druid period from 1-60 even now as a 60 I still don’t see them lmao
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I read that in Classic, weapon DPS is ignored for Bears and Cats. The weapons are used for stats, and may have usable spell enchants, but the weapon dps literally has no effect on Bear/Cat dps.
Is that right? My druid is only 18 so color me “clueless”.
This is true. Weapon dps, weapon spd, chance on hit, are irrelevant in cat or bear form.
Just the stats, on use effects, and the rare ‘chance on melee’ effects are relevant to feral forms. A few weapon buffs remain useful, things like Frost oil or Counterweight.
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any feral should be an offtank that switches to cat when not needed
dedicated cat-only feral is pointless.
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So I’m a dedicated full bear spec feral. I have 3 sets i take into MC my bear set, my cat set, and my heals/decurse/poison set. A bear is the best tank phase 1. We get passed p2 unless we can grind r13 and are getting the tank neck/rings/back malf chest. AQ 40 is where bears get most of their full stop bis and they become threat monsters even without the use of MCP. If your tanking a raid boss you can wear full mitigation gear and just use a MCP. Druids before patch 1.9 were horrible. We are playing 1.12.1 so we’re not just viable, we’re the best raid tank for Rag in full resist. Bear threat with a MCP can’t be caught even by a fury prot with 2 weps.
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As damage dealers, Druids bring great utility (probably the best of any class) and can do decent single target DPS in dungeons and from what I get can be somewhat competitive in Raids but require a lot of farming mainly due to the MCP having 3 charges only.
However you don’t have a way to deal AOE damage as Cat so won’t likely be topping meters unless the group is going very slow and pulling only 1-2 enemies at a time.
yes your dps is gonna fall off and quite quickly now if you want to tank or off heal /buff druid is fantastic for that but of the hand full of times i have bumped into dps I have been able to outstrip them with ease. but this is because i spend the time and money trying to gear myself. druids on the other hand have it really easy as fare as dps they don’t need to have good weapons or great gear to do ok damage. at least when leveling.
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As I understand it, Druid does not benefit in any way from weapon DPS. They benefit from stats and raw AP, but not the DPS. This can affect overall damage output when you reach higher levels.
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well it means that its far easier for you when early gearing as all you need to do is stack agi and str and voil your stronger. but take my rogue every attack i do is built off of my weapon damage. backstab is 150% weapon damage agi gives me crit and boosts my base attack a smig but if a wep does not do enough damage than all the agi in the world will not help me and i need to ditch it.
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I’m having a blast on this toon, and I plan to continue to do so. We’re playing through old content that’s recently been cleared by sub-60’s in quest greens. The meta gaming nonsense seems to be holding less and less water these days. At some point, I plan to level my alt - a ret paladin.
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Druids have the best DPS spec of any hybrid (Feral) and are the best tanks and one of the best healers in Tier 1 content.
The issue is that druid tank and DPS scale abysmally, Druids get most of their BIS by level 50 and raid gear doesn’t help them much because of awful itemisation.
They are great now but will be significantly less great by the time AQ comes around.
They are still excellent dungeon tanks though, and much easier to play than warrior.
Out of curiousity, did they end up going ahead with weapons providing Feral Attack Power as they were going to or not?
Certainly as far as phase 1 dps goes having access to that which would usually be available alot further down the track would have been a huge boon.
The 1% Tryhard Speedrun guilds - Feral DPS is not a thing
The other 99% - Feral DPS can usually bring one, maybe 2
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AFAIK the only weapon in classic with Feral Attack Power is Atiesh.
Edit: just looked it up, there are a few, but only in much later raids:
https://classic.wowhead.com/weapons?filter=235;1;0
So it’s MCP until phase 4 at the very earliest.
Cheers thanks for that. I know they were tossing it up when discussing using 1.12 class balance and which version of items to use (for those that changed over the patches), but didn’t know if it was implemented or not as I hadn’t rolled a Druid.
Thanks for clearing that up for me.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA thank you for that i needed that. they are ok and can be justified to take in a raid but when stacked against the pure classes they are found to be lacking.