Does Arthas deserve a "happy" ending?

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Yeah, I’d be very interested to know what Matthias (or, rather, the nu-Blizzard writing team transparently speaking through Matthias) think were the viable alternatives.

The citizens of Stratholme were already doomed. They had eaten the plagued grain and began turning into undead mere minutes after Arthas’ arrival on the city outskirts. Their alternatives at this point were death via plague consumption, death via zombies ripping them apart, or death via mercy-kill.

And strategically, destroying as many of the undead as possible piecemeal before they can spill out into the countryside en masse was unquestionably the proper decision. Giving Mal’Ganis a free hand to turn the entire citizenry into undead soldiers would’ve ended worse for anyone Stratholme-adjacent. Arthas at least brought them a reprieve until his return to Lordaeron, sans soul.

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886

Funny, the only people that say this is the Government who has a problem with people taking matters into their own hands.

Frankly, justice is best delivered by the people actually effected by the crime.

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As soon as Genn gets one for Gilneas and his son.

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888

That’s not justice, that’s retribution and in the days of great families that would lead to an unending series of retaliation.

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889

It’s not necessarily true that every single citizen had eaten of the tainted grain yet.

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There can’t be any retaliation if you don’t leave anyone left to retaliate.

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His son jumped in front of an arrow, why do we have to apologize for his stupidity?

Genn condemned an entire race to extinction. They are not the same

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892

Did you just say that protecting your family from bodily harm was stupid?

Either you have no one in your life that you value enough to do such a thing. Or your morals are all screwed up.

Either way, I am both disgusted and sorry to hear you say such a thing.

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893

His son would still be alive if the horde hadn’t invaded :eyes:

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894

True and Garrosh had a trial and that was brought up.

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895

That’s cute you are concerned for me.

But seriously though he’s responsible for his own actions.

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896

So, according to you. Someone who commits an armed home invasion ends up shooting a young boy who threw themselves between the attacker and his loved ones, is totally innocent, and the young boy is totally at fault?

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897

Sylvanas deserved worse than Stormheim for what the Forsaken had done, not just to Gilneas but the isolated human communities throughout Lordaeron. And if the Horde chooses to harbour people like her, then it deserves more Stormheims.

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Usually, the person who pulls the trigger is responsible.

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899

Unless it’s a Yass Queen girl boss moment.

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This has been the crux of the issue. The Horde sanctioned her attack on Gilneas and Southshore. The Horde sanctioned her attack on Ashenvale, Darkshore and Teldrassil. The Horde followed their orders aggressively and with enthusiasm at the Burning of Teldrassil. The Horde showed up in force to defend Sylvanas at Lordaeron. Even as the Horde satrted to splinted, there were more Sylvanas Loyalists within the Horde than not (Just based on the implication that a combined Saurfang and Anduin lead force could lose at Ogrimmar).

The issue isn’t with Sylvanas alone. It is with the Horde. An institution that is not only responsible for countless war and the deaths of innocents, but one that also justifies and glorifies such actions. The names of their Fel Corrupted founders permeates the entire culture.

Bladefist Bay, Deadeye Shore, Grommash Hold, and countless other examples throughout the game indicates that the Dark History of the Horde is not a cause for great shame for the modern Horde. If anything, the Modern Horde is a monument to its legacy.

“Thrall, Vol’jinn, they were never the true heirs to Blackhand’s Bloody Legacy. Sylvanas Windrunner is.”

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How did this Arthas thread get so off topic?

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Because Sylvanas exists.

Such is the way.

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This is the way.

Now if I could only post a mandolorian gif