Do You Want Layering Removed?

No, it’s already difficult enough to catch mobs because it’s so crowded.

Pro layering all day.

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If everyone was layer hopping would there be thorum nodes available?

Oh, wait, you already know the answer. The nodes are gone and u mad now.

This again?
What are we at now? 4,903, 173 posts crying about layering?

Can you people grow up and move on already?
I mean seriously…

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I prefer layering. As long as there is layering in effect, it means my realm isn’t dead yet.

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I want layering removed when it’s ready to be removed, just as originally communicated and planned by Blizzard.

Right now, layering is absolutely critical towards a playable experience. Without it, the populations per-server would render many questing zones unplayable. Blizzard stated that a “Low” population server for classic is a higher population than even the highest vanilla populated servers back in-era. It absolutely shows, even with layering.

Remember, layering is “game world-wide”. So those players ahead of or below the average leveling pace will perceive layering as unnecessary. You have to look at the average leveling pace and what zones those people are playing in to understand if layering is still necessary.

Just like Blizzard, I expect a good chunk of the player base to burn out and stop playing Classic WoW over the 60-90 days following launch. Eventually, only 1-2 layers will exist naturally. At that point, layering can be removed as planned.

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all the pro layering people can enjoy it while it lasts. it will be gone by the end of phase 1.

Yep, which is exactly when it was and still is planned for removal. Literally, layering will exist exactly as long as planned.

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actually the original plan is to start removing it a few weeks after launch. per blizzard. they then moved the goal posts to end of phase 1 at the latest.
big surprise there. blizzard loves there goal post moving.
if it isn’t removed by the end of phase 1, i’ll be unsubbing.

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I genuinely don’t remember them saying that. Could you link to the blue post/article where this was said? I can only find references to Phase 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYuUD0o-Nz8
starts around 3 minutes 54 seconds. by around 6 minutes hes talking about collapsing layers and having just a single world.

I said it.

There shouldn’t be worldwide layers, there should be zone servers that dynamically add or remove layers depending on load. Also, faster respawn, dynamically set up like layers.

WoW Classic = “Layer Me!”

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Yes. I want it removed while free transfers are still available so I can better guage whether to peace out or not.

Sure… once the other 90% of the people still leveling between 20-40 right now get to 60…

But then… there will be 10k-50k people trying to farm the same 1 layer for end game stuff… sure sounds stupid to me…

How can they remove layering right now though if there are servers that are still full during peak times with ~2 hour queues? how can they ever remove it if server pops remain this stable?

Although I guess removing it and making all the full pop servers also unstable with constant crashes / disconnects / world server unavailable, etc could actually help motivate people to migrate off them sooooooo yeah still don’t know what the correct answer is when it comes to layering.

That’s not the way it works. People offer services, people pay for those services. You treat your customers nicely so they’ll come back. You con’t change your mind about what you’re going to provide after you’ve said what you plan to provide. And no one in their right mind would expect a customer to be grateful for that.

Just because they say layering is over at the end of phase 1 does NOT mean they’ll remove it at the end of phase 1. Blizzard isn’t known for keeping their word. They also haven’t said when phase 2 begins. Now why is that?

As for leaving Classic in the dust I’m on the edge of doing so. The only reason I haven’t yet gone back to private servers is because I’m weary of PvP servers. I actually enjoyed my time questing through STV. I didn’t mind the runs to Scarlet Monastery.

The layering is getting to the point of being a deal breaker, though.

Blizzard made false statements.

The /who command COULD BE USED to determine layers.

However, rather than remove layering exploits, Blizzard did this: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/blizzard-just-hotfixed-the-ability-to-detect-layers-using-who-command

One issue I have seen with layering is mining nodes being clearly visible but when i get within mining range they disappear, If you back up a step they re appear. Another is I have had mobs spawn 2-3 times instantly in the exact same spot which can end pretty rough. Also there are times where layering clearly is not working because mobs just stop spawning for a very long time.

Because it’s a problem. I mean seriously.