Do you think that the Alliance will get some plot for once?

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Partly but most of the narrative attention was taken by the Horde in its quest to recover its lost honor,It’s like I told him no 7.3 I don’t treat Veleen and the Draenei deal with the Legion.

One thing does not remove the other.

If during 9.0 the hunting of Sylvanas took Tyrande and Genn mostly as protagonists of the Sylvanas Hunt it would be a story of the Alliance although the horde appeared as support.

Although they do it in a personal way with the help of anyone and not in the name of the Alliance they become painted as neutral on purpose.

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What did you think of Warlords of Draenor then?

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Nah, they’ll never be evil. If they are, I’m sure the forum will be full of their complaints.

Remember the purge squad in voldun? Remember when it was as early as PTR or datamine? Remember the outrage of alliance players? Remember them demanding blizz to change it (which they did)?

Any time alliance say “we want to be evil for once” or “we don’t mind committing atrocities”, we only need to bring up the purge squad lol

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Yea I hope you are joking with this one, killing 1 valkyr for having most of your people wiped out…

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I get that you seem more busy cherrypicking whatever happens to Night elves to put the back of your hand on your forehead and declare “woe is me!”, but if you think that that losing the only thing capable of creating more Forsaken is not a big deal…
Perhaps look into the context a little.

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Only if you include the cinematics (which I adored, but I did sort of notice they seemed to be compensating for a severe lack of IN GAME storytelling). It was sort of weird having to use meta-knowledge to justify my PCs choice to side with Saurfang (because there is no way we could have known his intentions in game, with what or PC experienced).

The primary Alliance narrative mostly involved Jaina’s path to reclaiming her lands and people; and the mental stability that re-connection to those roots brings. Generally speaking, most of 8.0 was pretty even handed (outside of the WoT, which … trust me … its so awesome being told I should feel bad about my Factions actions repeatedly). 8.1 had very little “Horde Identity Crisis” (again outside of cinematics), and had the Alliance deal a pretty massive blow to the Horde. 8.2 was primarily dealing with Naz’jatar and Mechagon and THIS is the first time the Alliance player is actually forced to work cooperatively with the Horde characters, or even get involved in their internal identity crisis … which then quickly ends in 8.2.5 to EVERYONE’S relief).

Long story short, its a Horde expansion … but not really a Horde expansion. Its weird.

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I inform you that without Sylvanas your Val’kyr number is 0

if they had even eliminated all of these from the Alliance, it would have been worth something.

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Just about entirely Horde, but not without exception. Kind of like how I think of WotLK as being an Alliance expansion, but with the exception of the Forsaken. WoD was a Horde expansion, but with the exception of the Draenei (mainly only for their one intro zone though in Shadowmoon Valley). Khadgar so constantly re-affirms his total neutrality that he’s lost 99% of his Alliance cred (unlike in TBC, when I still thought of him as Alliance, but he was unbelievably relegated to being a tour guide for Shattrath - kind of a great example of TBC wasting Alliance resources).

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As much as MOP And nobody doubts that it was a Horde expansion.

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I guess it sucks for you that they can’t doom a playable faction to extinction, huh?

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It was going to disappear Just as much as we kill them.

In addition the Forsaken are human They are like the Worgen.

They do not transmit the curse voluntarily to others.

And yet it does not affect its Origin as a character.

It really doesn’t affect you at all in terms of gameplay.

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You expect them to slowly delete a playable faction?

Are you drunk?

:roll_eyes:

Yes, it kind of does if the race it’s slowly being killed off it makes no sense for it to be playable… and they won’t delete a playable faction. Get over it.

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Anyone else sort of grossed out by this weird sentiment that some Alliance players seem to have that the Horde Playerbase doesn’t care about the story (and should just be satisfied existing from now on)? No wonder no matter what its always “Horde Bias”, the Horde even existing at ALL in what should be the ALLIANCE’S game and story must come off as very unfair.

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The natural course of things is that both the Worgen and the Forsaken disappear after a while,get over it.

it will not affect your gameplay at all

Since it will happen in many years when the last one dies or rots.

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Are you seriously trying to suggest they delete certain races from being playable?

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Yay, another one that finally noticed it!

But seriously, it’s ridiculous and this has been a thing for years now. No matter what happens, if the Horde still stands, even if by the assistance of dumb plot armor (because, really, the Horde could be easily wiped at this point), it’s bias.

You don’t get to ask blizzard to remove a playable race. Get over it.

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Look to start the playable characters of Both Races were created in CATA that races in a Future disappear will not affect the creation of new characters of these Races.

Do you want me to draw it to you?

Both the Worgen and the Forsaken were born in CATA

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…um. What?

And that didn’t answer my question.

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Wait… what?

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Please draw it out. I am not following you.

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