well, let’s say the horde gets better off with it. The story as a whole is an absolute mess, both horde and alliance.
Hm no but maybe if the horde doesn’t even give back night elf lands we should consider what makes them better than Sylvanas?
Not the Alliance, just Anduin
Well this just plumbed new depths… wipe out a horde race. 
No, the devs try to avoid working on Alliance as much as possible, except for Thrall cheating on his wife with Jaina. Who is now modelled after Elsa, some devs favorite Disney character.
Are you talking about Reps? Because pretty sure the one thing the NEs are doing well in is their representatives. They have 6 well developed A and B list characters, and with how HERO centric Blizz writes these stories … that ensures they as a PC race will retain relevance moving forward. The MU Orcs are just lucky both Thrall and Rexxar seem to be rejoining them, because if they didn’t … the poor sods would be left with ONLY Eitrigg and Cromush as their most developed reps (just … let that sink in). The Forsaken are in FAR WORSE shape (with Calia risking to destroy even their racial fantasy down to the foundations).
Wait I’m not sure and I’m pretty sure it’s a noob question:
Is Rexxar a Orc?
Orc Ogre hybrid
I see Thank You
I’m still annoyed that Blizzard decided to do the, “Evil Warchief” and “What REALLY Defines the Horde?” plots again.
I’d be happy to have less story focus on the Horde and more for the Alliance if it means not doing that again.
yeah it would have been so much more meaningful if Genn got to Anduin and made him start the war.
Then have Sylvanas turn to whatever she has.
They don’t have the ability to write Faction stories anymore so I would rather they abandoned factions as a whole.
Earlier that would have meant WoW would have been destroyed but now it seems like a blessing we want.
Not really, they’ll just completly ignore the Alliance characters if there is a faction merge, since then they aren’t “required” to cover them as part of the faction split.
To the devs it’s a blessing to them. They never have to write about Tyrande or Anduin or Genn ever again as a supporting actor in a Horde cutscene and they can sit in Stormwind doing nothing for 50 years because theres no factions anymore.
Ironically when they abandoned factions, in Legion the Alliance was ever present and the Horde was non existent.
Imagine that’s why they wanted a faction war expac again after MoP
You mean Khadgar, Illidan, Turalyon, Alleria? Those Alliance heroes? Which Alliance races do they lead?
May as well say the Lich King was an Alliance expansion because the big bad was Arthas.
I meant that when there was no faction war Horde was basically a random toy which didn’t fit in World of Warcraft.
Well they would have to be willing to not let alliance be the do gooder human faction with friends. They really struggle it feels like with letting Humans leave the spotlight for more than a few patches. Humans could leave the spotlight for the next 3 expansions tbh.
Yeah as soon as someone like Thrall tries to save the world Blizzard takes his powers away soon after. Blizzard doesn’t want the Horde to be the good guys. But they don’t want to make them the truly bad guys. They want to keep them just weak enough so they still feel like they are justified in beating everyones head in.
See one of our capitals Burn and even torture us during the event giving us an impossible mission,After that, force us to make peace without more?
It’s quite painful you know.Know that you do not matter enough to even get a plot of revenge that does not end in a dead end and cut to black.
You mention that Legion is Expansion of the Alliance because our characters are the great NEUTRAL heroes.
Very well in this case I can call CATA, MOP, WOD Horde expansions under the same criteria.
MOP was focused on the Horde and the Alliance obtained more development than on BFA.
MOP was so horde that DEVs were asked why they do not write things for the Alliance.
They replied that it was hard for them because we were too much Superman / Captain America.
Cata had more content with Horde working with Malfurion than the Alliance had to work for Thrall (Thrall was just more important to the Meta narrative, but he rarely showed up otherwise).
Outside of that, the content was pretty even handed. MoP was definitely a Horde themed expansion, I’ll give you that. The ONLY thing Horde Themed about WoD was that we were killing more Orcs (or am I forgetting that Thrall was the ONLY Horde character of any real relevance in that entire expansion; and most of it is him just dicking around with his AU Mom and Dad). I also recall there being a TON of Draenei content in that expansion.
And yes, Legion was an Alliance expansion. I’m sorry it was. It was so much Alliance that the Horde faction was almost entirely irrelevant to it. So, in effect, the Alliance has Legion (and Vanilla, considering Horde relevant content ended at lvl 40 in that original game), the Horde has MoP, and whatever the hell BfA is (it clearly wasn’t FOR the Horde, as the Horde faction was merely a vehicle to drive Sylvie’s personal narrative and settup the next expansion).
Excuse me while I scoop my eyeballs off the floor, they seemed to have popped off after rolling them so hard.
Killing one of the pillars that keep the Forsaken from going extinct (The valkyr) kind of was though.
You’re correct, but blizzard won’t dare because of people like the first person that replied. When Horde gets beaten by the villain bat, it’s favoritism, but if Alliance were to get the same “development”, what do you think it would happen?
Keep in mind these are people that ignore the fact that every time Horde advanced anywhere, they were getting beat back and Horde players were vocally reminded of this by Nathanos scolding us as if we were children who forgot to get our homework done.
I’d say it was mostly an Alliance expansion. Theme and history does matter. The exception was the Forsaken being well tied in as well, but the Forsaken were also kind of the odd man out within the Horde itself in terms of theme.
I always thought Blizzard’s decision to kill off the Ner’zhul side of the Lich King was an incredibly stupid approach that squandered the opportunity to tie in well with the main Horde history.
Ner’zhul had been the orc left in charge of the Horde after the second war ion Draenor. He actually could have been used as another good bridge between TBC and WotLK, given that he was the orc that caused Draenor to fall apart and become Outland. He knew Thrall’s parents and warned them not to drink the demon blood in the far past. He hated the Burning Legion and blamed them for the destruction of his people.
There really was a ton of great material Blizzard could have used to tie the Lich King into both histories of the Horde and Alliance. But, off-screen, they had the Arthas half kill off the Ner’zhul half, so instead of being a merged entity, we only dealt with Arthas.