Do you think Classic's success upset Blizzard?

SL is probably around the 12 million mark, since its the highest player count in a decade which blizz stated to its investors.

The wording from blizz was that classic launch gave around a 200% increase compared to previous quarter. i think that doesnt mean that it had more players than bfa had at launch. it means it had more players than bfa during 8.2 launch roughly. personally, i dont think it beat bfa at launch since bfa launch number sales beat legion and legion was massive as well.

Blizzard doesn’t report sub counts. Not even to its investors. Also a sub is a sub, there is no distinction between a Classic and an SL sub.

I wish his profile wasn’t hidden so I could ignore him.

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Yes ur right they dont directly report numbers now but they did back in 2010. So thats where the approx 12M number is coming from.
Yeah a sub is a sub i agree. But its mostly shadowlands not phase 6 classic that brought those numbers in late 2020 is what i meant.

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Yeah, Blizzard is upset…all the way to the bank.

They said they WOW, in general, has the highest mua’s. They didn’t distinguish between retail and classic.

Prob the design people, as evident. Blizzards execs laughing all the way to the bank tho.

You know, if I’m Blizz, a bitter faction war between fans of two of my products is a pretty sweet deal.

Except that is the sum of the answer why Blizzard isn’t upset. The Classic crowd’s added income is gravy.

ofc but as i said in my above post, this came after shadowlands release not after classic. so its fair to assume that shadowlands brought this and classic has helped for sure. either way, both versions are doing great which is awesome and the initial question by the OP is really ridiculous. :slight_smile:

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I’m sure it was Shadowlands that put them over the edge, but we still don’t really know how the distribution falls between Shadowlands/Classic or how much crossover there is. I agree though, in general WOW seems to be at an all time high by any metric

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no doubt there would be players that came back to retail(shadowlands, even late bfa to a degree) after coming back to classic launch, that would be hard to deny. Surely blizz wants both games to do well but if they could choose which player base could be bigger it would be retail purely from a monetization point of view. that by all means doesnt mean that blizz would want the classic versions to fail. On the contrary. Theres always gonna be die hard classic only players and those folks need to have a game there for them. its a win for everyone.

I came back for Classic and bought Shadowlands and I hadn’t played an MMO seriously since WOTLK.

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Classic is super popular in China still while Shadowlands is far more popular than Classic in NA/EU. The latest version of Details for Shadowlands has over 1.8 million downloads alone. When you add the most recent version of Recount and Skada to that number, all three total around 3 million downloads.

  • Not everyone uses a damage meter.
  • Not everyone uses addons.
  • Not everyone updates their addons every time a new version is released.
  • I’m almost 100% positive that China gets their addons from a Chinese site. Otherwise, the downloads for Classic addon updates would still be very high but that’s not the case.

Yeah, safe to say that WoW is really popular in general right now.

Once Classic is done, ill be done with Blizzard all together. I Hate retail with a passion and I’m going to assume they will be using the same pop. size for TBC. I remember so many places in TBC that are bottlenecks in the questlines. Current population size is now over 3-4x the original size. I’m not waiting weeks to get through them. I’m done when we finish naxx! No more retail, no more classic!

We have 37 servers in NA. At the end of Vanilla when the subs were at 7.5 million, there were (I believe) 143 servers in NA.

Your populated server that is nearly completely Alliance is an exception, not the rule. Almost every server we have now is within the Vanilla population range and outside of prime raid times, I’d say the activity averaged across all the servers is less than it was in Vanilla.

There’s sometimes not a single AV going across 37 servers. There were AV’s going on my Medium pop server in Vanilla all the time, without cross-realm BGs.

They’re trying to kill classic with SL, same release time around Naxx… many have left for SL

Pretty destructive honestly

AV is a dead BG. Most Alliance won’t touch it.

No. Because at the end of the day investors like revenue streams and the relaunch of old content is another revenue stream under the wow substream under the blizzard entity.

The reason there is next to zero policing is because there is no roi on the policing, which is why BC should have the token in it so they can capitalize that further. There’s a ton of gold buying to offset the grindiness of actual farming that is happening and Blizzard should take heed and make that non-negotiable and police that gold rm transaction market themselves in BC through the token and IP isolation by region.