Do you think Classic should move onto TBC eventually?

Here here! well said.

Also.

We dont need more DIABLO essence inside of Warcraft. We have enough of that with M+ in legion and BFA as well as “personal randomized loot” both huge mechanics in Diablo, but FAILURE implementation in WoW because of the game types and how it would just ruin the game if it was the same EXACT system. But the essence of it? the same…

Classic is supposed to just… run… as the 1-60 experience and the people that are pushing for server wipes/expanded vertical expansion into other later version and saying its “NOT AUTHENTIC” that we are staying as 1-60… Dont understand the principle of bringing classic to life.

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I know that there are TBC servers, and Wrath servers, and whatever else servers out there. Probably not WoD servers, though.

And if there’s enough demand, I’m sure that Blizz will make official servers dedicated to previous expansions.

But frankly, I hope that they get the real message; that the game design of these expansions was great, and that’s the sort of game design we crave. I hope that the eventual WoW 2 will follow in the footsteps of Vanilla-Wrath, and not just funnel everyone into raiding as the only thing to do end game. Not make it feel as though if you’re not raiding the latest raid, you’re not playing the real game.

If the amount of time vanilla existed was an essential piece of the vanilla experience we wouldn’t be getting it again.

Sorry Apocalypse. You’re going to lose this one. Kick and scream all you want. Resets won’t happen, at least not forcibly. They’re never going to delete people’s characters.

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The need for the fresh realms on the Pservers is the chinese farmers destroying the market and gold buyers really… It kinda wrecks the economies of the servers.

Having a small set of specific servers to be rolled back would be interesting. HOWEVER. Most “seasons” of diablo only last… what? 10, 12 weeks? 3 months is literally no time to really do anything on WoW.

They would have to have 6 months/yearly servers that reset. The time frame would be relatively astronomical… Also, without having a large gauge of competition other than twitch streams of world 1sts its a much less logical situation to implement that you staunchly advocate for Apocalypse.

I’ve given the idea a lot of though and I like it, but the types of games that have season servers are much faster paced than the pace of Classic.

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A hard reset every couple of years won’t happen lmao. Yeah blizzard is just gonna come out and reset all of the classic servers because everyone started from release, right? What about players who only started 6 months or 2 months prior?
“Nup. You weren’t a big enough fan obviously. You had your chance. Hard resets plx”
There will literally be no reason to play on the server at all and try to level a character or gear a character in the last remaining months until reset.
That’s an obviously terrible idea.
Here’s an obviously better idea. Release new fresh servers every 12 months or so and leave the original classic servers alone for the people who want to stay there forever.
Some people might think it’s stupid, but there are a LOT of people who want to stay in a 1.12 server forever and not reset and not progress into tbc or a vanilla +.

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I won’t play TBC since that was the start of resilience in PvP.

It was also the start of the daily quest hub, which was where everything pretty much started to go wrong. After they found out how popular they were, they basically made the entire game about daily quest hubs.

Loved the flying. Best memories of the game, but it’s also where Blizzard started the trek toward getting really lazy.

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I liked having to pick and choose my dailies to gain which ever reputation i needed.

Once we could do them ALL at once? It just kinda killed it and made the whole damn thing a chore.

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That doesn’t actually make any sense. You’re getting the game again because it’s going to make money. One of the stated goals for the game is authenticity. Keeping authentic time limitations is more authentic than giving every moron a game genie cheat code for unlimited time.

It’s also a HELL OF A LOT better for the overall health of the game in general, because stagnation will absolutely bury this game’s long term prospects of survival.

As if the economies won’t get wrecked by a top heavy stagnant server population? Or the economies won’t get wrecked by stagnation causing server decline/death?

Stagnation DOES NOT WORK IN THIS GAME. It’s astounding as to how many times this needs to be said.

Or… just release new servers ever 6-12 months so that new players have options beyond the servers near their end of life cycle, then forcibly reset each servers at the appropriate time. Congrats, new players aren’t stuck on a soon to be reset server and you get to keep things authentic and avoid catering into rampant casual entitlement and selfish decision making.

Not for Ret at least… until season 3 when Ret finally got resilience on their own gear (as if Ret needed any help being awful or having a stigma of being awful back then)

I guess we’ll see :innocent:

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We already have, numerous times on retail and on pservers.

Stagnation causes massive sub loss on retail anytime a single raid tier is active too long, and on Pservers it’s one of the primary factors in motivation the creation of, and rush to “FRESH” realms.

You may not like content churn, but you don’t get to deny the reality that it’s the engine that drives the entire game.

At the end of the day, blizzard won’t delete peoples characters and progression. Have certain servers that reset as often as you like, but i am pretty damn confident blizzard will have servers that will stay in the same state indefinitely.

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At this point, it’s all speculation anyway. Let’s just see how Classic does on its own. Whatever happens, Blizz will cross that bridge when it gets there. We gotta get outta Durotar first.

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If they were smart they would have 1 server at least of every expansion to keep those that like certain ones actively subscribed. Since they own it they should get what they can out of it.

Regardless of what the typical 40+ year olds that couldn’t move on from vanilla in here like to repeat over and over it’s very likely that TBC will come after some time if Classic is successful, just because you didn’t like TBC doesn’t mean that the general census is the same as your opinion - TBC is a vastly superior product in nearly all aspects.

A TBC server, if it is made, should be separate 1 to 70 servers. The first xpac brought so many changes that, as a legacy game, should be treated as separate from Classic.

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I think people should move on from making these threads when the last one doesn’t get the overwhelming response they’re fishing for.

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No, but it might be nice to eventually have TBC and Wrath versions of the game available. Sort of like how older versions of console games can still be bought and played. Idk how other people feel about this, or how it could work with the economy being what it is now.

Classic should not move onto TBC.

TBC classic should release as its own servers.
It won’t kill anyone to start from level 1 in TBCC.

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While I think TBC is better in nearly every aspect, there should be an option to transfer your vanilla toon to a TBC server after the Classic servers have been 1.12 for long enough. I’d say releasing both fresh Classic servers (the content cycle starts over) and TBC servers is the best option. There should be a choice to transfer, not something that happens automatically like in retail when a new expansion comes out.

Neither does deleting characters :man_shrugging:

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