and battle pets!
Bruh, if you don’t enjoy the journey, maybe it’s time to find another game. I don’t mean that in a bad way, but you can’t look at it like that and expect to have fun. Congrats, the game has officially become a chore for you.
I’ve been at this for the past 20 years. I’ve had times where I felt the same way— for me, it was during Cataclysm to Pandaria. I would only play half the tier, constantly playing catch-up and jumping between guilds like they were turtle mobs in Super Mario. Eventually, that caught up to me, and I quit.
We don’t play MMOs just for boss kills and power progression. We play for the journey and the friends we make along the way. If you’re not in a guild that suits you and only focus on the number of bosses killed, you’ll always feel the need to leave. It takes many seasons of consistency to build lasting relationships with guildmates. You can’t expect to do what you used to do with IRL friends in just a weekend with complete strangers.
Build lasting gaming relationships. And like the loading screen tooltip still says to this day: don’t forget to go outside Azeroth with your friends—this includes playing other games together.
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I think about this sometimes, too.
At this point, I’m not really sure. I very much enjoy playing my character, and I like raid boss encounters (I don’t like how big of a group I play with, but I’ll take it) when they’re either in a progression state or when we are still pinning them down into proper “farm status.”
Not sure what else is all that motivating - I already have all of the new mounts I want, rng be praised, and I’m approaching 619 item level. The only thing I can do now is try to pug mythic raids as my guild hangs it up at heroic, or bash my head against m+ for gilded crests for a while. Not sure how appealing that is, so I think the only other motivator I have is transmog.
That said - I think this is a good thing. I love WoW, I’ve been playing it without extensive interruption since 2004. Nowadays, I am fine getting out of it a night a week to clear Nerub’ar on heroic and then if I want, another day to do something else. This frees me up to play something else if I want, both preventing me from burning out on WoW (I’m not an alts person) and keeping it within my sphere.
Maybe I’m abnormal in this respect, but I’m kind of glad to not necessarily have a motivation to play WoW more than I do at the moment. I’m having fun with the game still, after 20 years, and it’s enough!
last time I was in a hardcore raiding guild was in Cata…that’ was an amazing group of people and since then haven’t been able to get into a rhythm with other guilds…too much drama, guilds breaking up, etc…it’s too hard to co-ordinate with people like that and when M+ came out or rather when I started doing M+ Dungeons it just felt better…easier to make groups, no 4 hour/day commitment and gear is pretty comparable to raid. I do miss raid sometimes especially some of the gear you can’t get anywhere else unless you are lucky and get it in your Vault.
What’s the point in anything? You and I will be dead one day and none of this will matter.
There is no defined objective in World of Warcraft, and that’s what makes it a wonderful game.
I think the goal is to have fun. If you’re not having fun then you should lay it down for awhile until you get that spark back–if ever.
What’s the point of playing CoD or Fortnite or CSGO?
What’s the point of living, we’re all going to do die anyway.
If you ask people what the point of raiding is in 2003 you’re gonna get vastly different answers.
No one cares about massive player interaction anymore. I happen to enjoy 40 mans, I did them all AGAIN when Classic came out.
Actually the 40 mans on top of everything might’ve been the only reason I even played Classic that long. I skipped TBC Classic, only did dungeons in WotLK and Cata Classic.
I would’ve liked to raid in WotLK but the gate keeping was literal insanity. You think people gate keep hard in Retail, holy shmoly, it is uninstall levels of bad in Classic.
Raiding with 40 is a special experience I think because you get to play with everyone. We had our own guild and I really liked how we could have like 15 really good people and the rest didn’t matter, we could just lead them to victory still.
Plus you get to play with girls. Enough said.
The point is the kill its self. I usually get bored or stop playing once I’ve killed end bosses or a certain level of keys. Then I focus on other stuff. Too time consuming to worry about being too high up there for anything, so I choose to just get AOTC, key hero and 1800 or sometimes 2100 in arena. After that I become super casual world quester.
The point is to have fun. I’m not in it for the gear, or the achievements, or the mounts, those all just come as a function of doing this stuff. I do it because I enjoy the challenge of solving a complex puzzle with 19 other people across the internet. It’s an incredibly unique gamemode that has absolutely enthralled me for nearly 2 decades.
For me, I don’t see a new raid as being thrown back down to the bottom, but rather as a bunch of new puzzles to solve.
To keep you busy & occupied chasing the next objective, to keep moving the goal-posts so that you’re NEVER done.
The thing is… you don’t need to be atop of the endgame to see this pervasive pattern of a hamster wheel stringing you along. Because the entire endgame is part of that hamster wheel.
You’re starting to see it for what it is.
Nothing wrong with enjoying the activity, but it’s probably time to call out the time-wasting BS and walking away for a bit.
What’s the point of any video game?
It’s a hobby, you do it for fun, if it’s not fun then you need a new hobby.
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Collections are the real end game.
What’s the point of any game? To have fun. Mythics are for people who want the greatest challenge. It’s fairly simple.
The point is transmog, mounts, and being a little bit strong for a while!
(Plus I have fun doing it)
I enjoy being a murder hobo. On a serial level
New seasons = new victims
Plus, big flashy numbers and enjoyable combat system
I go for KSM! I like to chase the mounts. After that, I lazily push KSH, and then if I hit that I basically just drop off and focus on gathering, world quests, and so on. I’ve done the raiding thing before and it’s fun for a little bit but I just cannot keep with it. Plus, it’s really difficult for someone with ADHD such as myself to sit and focus on raiding since it’s not engaging to me whatsoever, my eyes glaze over and then I start actively trying to figure out how to not raid (not logging in during raid time, etc. I do not like confrontation lol).
Lfr is more toxic than pug raids.
Its unironically just having fun playing with your friends. I like to get geared faster so I can carry extra weight, but wow in general is not good enough of a game to stand alone without its social element. I don’t know how people who pug everything do it.
My group pushes for aotc and has m+ groups who push to their limit, and once those goals are hit, we do a normal achievement run take a screenshot and some of the raid group leaves until next season while the rest just farm and keep pushing keys in the meantime. It’d be nice to have mythic as an additional path of prog, but the 20 man limit hard locks a casualish group that doesn’t want to vet its playerbase. We still sometimes 16-18 man the first boss or two.