Do ppl like goblins? are they your favorite?

Wondering the perception of goblins and if anyone would consider them their favorite race.

Not really, there is a reason I chose the Alliance.
But if I have to strike some sort of deal with the Horde, I think Goblins can do some great job
with enough gold.
I’m not a good diplomat like my king so I would ask him to pay Goblins. lol.

I’m personally not into either goblins or gnomes. I’m not a fan of their brand of whimsy, most of their voices, the technology angle, and neither their height or proportions.

Gallywix was a weird exception to me for some reason, and only in a Batman villain sort of way. Him being distasteful to be around was the point, so I guess he had some distant ironic appeal despite it all.

Yup, favorite race. With their lore, I don’t think there is a single more underdog PC race in this entire game.

Their current technological culture is only a little over a 100 years old, and its shortsighted, materialistic, and reckless advancement focus are deeply reflective of the 3000 years the species spent as slave-race. With their one and only advantage in what has been a very cruel and ruthless world being the very intellect they only have from hundreds of generations of long term exposure to the toxic heavy metal they were forced to mine. They might truly destroy themselves in their reckless greed, but in their current form they are a very young race. So who knows? If they can learn to mellow out just enough they might develop into something truly special.

As much of a “Joke-Race” as they are, its an awesome concept! And they’re just plain fun! :smiley:

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I do really think the goblins are something special. I wouldn’t call them my favorite race, but top 10 for sure. Being involved in such a goblin-heavy RP guild for so long certainly helped me warm up to them.

I think the Blizzard interpretation of goblins has been one of the most refreshing takes on the race I’ve ever seen. As Droite said, they’re absolutely the underdogs both physically and in terms of their youth as a race, but they’re so used to being the underdogs that they never miss an opportunity to push the advantage.

Their brutal, gob-eat-gob societal structure and admiration for shallow displays of materialistic wealth makes a lot more sense when you realize only a handful of generations ago, they were slaves. Plus, their irreverence and gaudiness contrasts so hilariously with the more self-serious elements of WoW’s universe. Orcs and night elves are my favorite races, but if I could put money down for a TV show or movie focusing on a band of agents having adventures across Azeroth, I’d want it to be about goblins.

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I like goblins. Back before they were playable, they were the race that I most wanted to be able to play. As soon as they became playable, I made a goblin shaman—I love the way they deal with the elements in such an irreverent manner that still totally makes sense (you can see why the elements would go for it).

I think you need a particular type of sense of humor to really enjoy them, though.

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I think Goblins are unique and interesting, and I respect anyone that plays them—I would never question anyone’s personal choice in player race—but even as a primarily Horde player


I really, really dislike everything that Goblins stand for. It seems like I’m in the minority: the things others like, I can’t stand. The recklessness, greed, cruelty, total disregard for the environment, sustainability, human rights, is everything I dislike about the real world, making the Goblins the biggest “ruiner” of my ‘escapist fantasy’ in the game. They remind me everything I wish I could get away from. They gross me out worse than Garrosh or Sylvanas or any other villain ever could.

But that’s just me, it would seem. My dislikes are no excuse to take away anyone else’s good time.

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It helps for me to see them as a darkly comedic parody of capitalism and anti-environmentalism. It’s never portrayed as a good thing, and the fact that the goblins care so little about nature and the environment or even prefer things being destroyed just strikes me as so bad it’s funny.

It reminds me of a villain from a Captain Planet parody, the type who’s like “Trees? Mountains? Clear water?! EWW! This place will look so much better when it’s all a beautiful parking lot!”

I understand if it’s hard to see that as funny, though. Climate change and the environment can be a scary topic, and getting reminders of it while you’re trying to relax can be rough.

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For what it’s worth, Garriah, I can see how someone might have that reaction. As I said in my post above, I think goblins appeal to players with a specific sense of humor. And everybody has their own personal list of things that get under their skin.

For example, you may have noticed that I’m a huge Tolkien fan, but I cannot for the life of me fathom why he spent so much of his writing career working on the story of that self-absorbed, entitled man-baby TĂșrin when he could have been writing something actually worth reading. But Tolkien himself was clearly infatuated with that character for reasons that completely escape me; there must be some appeal that I’m totally missing.

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This is true, I do get that appeal. I think maybe I’m letting a different bias cloud my judgement as well, that’s definitely worth bringing up in a goblin thread:

In most zones, goblins come as long as a string of about 10 bear-butt collecting quests, with no real connection to the zone’s lore, and they’re just there to make money. Think about: it’s been that way for years; they’re the break in story in every zone. And as a result, they completely ruin the flow and vibe of a zone, and leave me thinking “come on, let me get back to the real quests, I was in the mood and these guys just interrupted it and killed it!”

So maybe they need some more real development/love, rather than what they get?

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To each their own, but I do however think there quite literally is no more unfair a comparison between PC Races than NEs and Goblins. If you truly consider their development and history as species, it is sort of like comparing an environmentally conscientious trust fund kid, to the poor kid who has to fight tooth and nail for everything they have. And despite Goblins existing for a LONG time, their current form and culture is only a little over 100 years old. Thats .07 percent of Tyrande’s estimated lifespan, just to put that in perspective.

For example? How long did it take for the Kaldorei to finally settle back into their current environmentally friendly culture? And what was the cost to get them there? Well, several thousand years 
 and 80 percent of Azeroth’s landmass. Gobs have a long way to go to match that lol!

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Batman villain! You’ve nailed it. But Adam West Batman, not the more recent stuff.

This, but also, it occurs to me that they’re actually a genuinely morally grey race. Because they’re overly capitalistic and heedless of the environment, but at the same time, they’re scrappy and cheerful and they’ve truly built something out of nothing. They’re admirable and horrible, and they have managed not to get flattened into being just one or the other. That’s increasingly rare in modern WoW.

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The Gob Squad! :smiley:

I’ve always liked the Goblins. Not my #1 race, but I’ve always enjoyed these crazy techno people. The Goblin starting zone is one of my favorites in the game.

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I agree. I do think goblins deserve a chance to mature a little once they’ve secured a home for themselves, and I accept that in their current state they’re messy and still scrambling for solid ground. I think it’d be a hilarious interaction to see some night elf begin to chide a goblin for their race’s destructive habits, only for the goblin to fire back with, “Didn’t you guys blow up the WHOLE PLANET?” That sums it up pretty nicely, I think. (Plus, gnomes do almost as much environmental destruction as goblins. Oil drilling, radiation, etc.) That of course doesn’t mean the goblins get a pass to just completely wreck everywhere they go, nor do they need to become one-with-nature tree-huggers. I’m sure they’ll figure it out.

I hold a similar position to IRL environmentalism, in that I believe it’s the responsibility of the richest nations in the world to assist developing nations in setting them up for success. Some people blame poorer nations for relying on coal or producing a lot of pollution when they’re trying to develop, but the fact of the matter is that they can’t be expected to rely exclusively on clean energy when they’re so poor, and those that will be first affected by climate change disaster will be the residents of such countries.

The best solution is for rich countries to provide developing nations with the tools to make clean energy much more viable while they grow, then establishing it as their primary source of energy once they’ve grown. That way, more nations are healthier and can contribute more to the global economy, they have good will with their sponsor, and the planet benefits.

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Yes, the gnomes pollute Azeroth too. Yes strong. And their inventions are not always 
 verified (at least, the abolition of the leprognome state was). But it seems that their inventions are more reliable. You don’t risk dying every second just by being around. By the way, is it true that a goblin shredder has a 1% chance of exploding every time it steps?

Is it worth cultivating a discussion here about “how best to help poor countries become developed”? Not that I really want to, but it would be “interesting”. Probably.

You know why that is right? Because like the Gnomes themselves, a lot of Gnome tech is deeply rooted in Titan designs. Goblins are just kind of 
 figuring it out as they go, or trying to backwards engineer without guidance tech they stumble upon. Innovation and Invention can be messy things for both races, but the Gobs are really stumbling their own way through.

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They’re not necessarily my favorite (I don’t really know if I have a favorite race), but I’ve always had a fondness for them even before Cataclysm. I’m stoked to see the direction they go now under a different Trade Prince.

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And don’t they just deny security as an idea? “Security? Who needs it?”

Edit.
That is, yes, goblins experiment, improve their inventions, but they do not think about safety at all. They will improve anything but security.

Not my favorite, but I like them. I really liked the Alchemist from WC3 and WoW desperately needs an transmute/execute ability that makes the target burst into gold coins.
Goblins are cool, they fit in anywhere because they’re always trying to figure out how they can make some money out of whatever the situation is. Entrepreneurs see the value in everything, and that’s a nice quality.
How is there not a crazy goblin tyring to send a rocket into the big hole in the sky? That’s right
 the story is about the stupid covenants, and specifically not about the factions. We should be smacking the Kyrian with a wrench and flying people away from the Maw in a Zepplin, for a reasonable price.

A thing I’ve noticed, is that in novels, whenever someone interacts with a gob, they often end the conversation with dismissively patting said gob on the top of the head.

Several characters have done so.

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