Do people like vanish being a primarily dps rotation ability?

It’s baffling. Having mobs reset is very frustrating.

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Agreed.

They can indeed come up with something thematic.

:+1:

:surfing_man: :surfing_woman:

I don’t mind it as a playstyle, but as others have said, I don’t think it fits outlaw well from a design standpoint.

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Make stealth enterable in combat, but it doesn’t clear dots or bleeds or magic affects. Turn Vanish into a full CloS plus stealth. Would cost a GCD in the rotation, but it makes sense, and doesn’t cause them to reconfigure the trees too much. They can make it so its not able to do so in PVP combat as well.

Im a fan of getting rid of energy, or at least the energy costs of the finishers. Assassination is just not fun to play when you are waiting to press any ability.

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just off the top of my head, minus sub because they have shadowdance. Assassination could have poison bomb which in turn gives them the ability to have access to stealth abilities as long as rogue is in the radius. I don’t believe outlaw needs a shadowdance. I think they need something like boarding party or go back in time and have the cannon fire. Both sound thematic and fitting the specs.

Don’t love it. It’s weird, this version, and what we had before with vanish AND shadow dance, it seems to be trying to recapture Shadowlands season 4 outlaw playstyle, minus the perceived degeneracy.

Thing is, without Conflag, Fan the Hammer’s already decidedly in the ‘not degen gameplay’ territory. Then they nerfed the talent too, to make it so you can’t just proc full CP. Fine. Feels bad but fine. So what do we do to bandaid the heck out of it? I know, let’s have outlaw pop in and out of stealth and rely heavily on Subterfuge even though BF is STILL on the GCD. :yawning_face:

I forget if we had a version of fan the hammer at the start of DF that was essentially the same as the SL tierset, but going back to that might be the play? I dunno.

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I don’t particularly care one way or the other on Vanish being used as a DPS cooldown.

My issue stems from the fact that Deathstalker’s Mark cannot be triggered by Blindside’s free Ambush, which means you get to trigger Deathstalker’s Mark once every 2 minutes (Vanish’s cooldown) and the rest of the time Assassin functionally has half a hero tree. Its one of those things that feels kind of bad.

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Yeah DS needs a built in Subterfuge specifically for Ambush