You play a Paladin you don’t know your own lore?
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I know it better than you, and there’s nothing preventing someone being a paladin from other cultures which are playable. The Scarlet Crusade had paladins through their zeal, there’s nothing to suggest a gnome, Worgen (originally humans by the way), goblins, orcs, even Maghar, nothing suggests that they can’t be paladins. It may be much less likely due to their culture, but an impossibility? We’ve seen nothing to suggest that.
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Omfg really, the whole premise of Paladin, Druid and Shaman lore is very specific and that’s why they have always been so racially restricted in the game, it’s not like someone can just say oh I’m gonna pick up a sword and shield then channel the light and I’m a Paladin or I’m gonna go connect with nature so I’m a Druid, it doesn’t work like that.
I’m so glad someone like Ion is pretty much at the top to stop people like you from just trashing the game completely.
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Nobody can grab a staff and weild the powers of an archmage, channeling frostfire and opening portals across realms either. The player character is an extreme exception to the norm, and presumed to be an adult who has learned fundamentals well before their racial starter quests or the Exile’s Reach incident.
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Difference is everyone can be a Mage so far, not everyone can be a Shaman, Druid or Paladin and again the person at the top said that the lore needs to make sense for it to be expanded upon not even for all and that certain race/class combos of that sort would never make sense so accept it or not, it is what it is.
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Lorewise, there’s nothing to suggest everyone doesn’t have that potential. It’s not as common in other circles, but there’s no playable race in this game which is established in lore to be incapable of being a shaman, paladin, druid, or monk.
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So you don’t wanna accept that how the lore is written makes those three different or that the game director broke it down in an interview because you want this so that’s why, got it.
I see no more reason to waste anymore of my time with the back and forth with you.
Bye, maybe read up on the lore instead of making it up.
Draenei have closer ties to the light than Humans or Dwarves do, simply because they communicate directly wit the demigod-like beings of the light, the Naaru. Humans had only whispered visions prior to contact with the Draenei.
Furthermore, Draenei have been closer tied to the light and able to be paladins longer than humans have in the lore, and as long as Blood Elves have been in the game (TBC Draenei could be paladins)
Night Elves have been, lore-wise, able to be Paladins since Legion (see Delas Moonfang, Champion of the Silver Hand). Furthemore, their priests also channel the light - meaning there is no reason why they couldn’t combine martial prowess with using the light.
Since X’era, the Light has not been portrayed as ‘intrinsically good’, and since WC3 paladins have been shown to be possible to be evil and bad - Arthas was an evil paladin, then we have the entire Scarlet Crusade (and it’s many spin offs) that also were quite evil. We have ‘evil’ undead using the introduced in Hallowfall and the Priory and I suspect we will have similar should we ever make more contact with the Arathi Empire.
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You’re the one making a claim. That somewhere in the lore there is explicit proof (not that Ion said something in an interview, their positions have and will change all the time) that certain races are entirely incapable of having any kind of elemental connection or connection to the light or nature, so it falls on you to provide the proof that we are supposed to accept.
There’s no lore evidence to suggest a gnome couldn’t be a paladin, or a forsaken couldn’t be a druid, etc.
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I’ll give you this final reply and say maybe accept that the game director is on my side not yours especially on this topic.
I don’t have to prove anything I’m going on the established lore and how limited those three classes have been and still are since the game begun, I’m sorry you and people like you don’t like that but it’s how it is and since realistically I have no horse in this race I could honestly careless if they are ever expanded or not.
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It’s not that you don’t have to prove it, you can’t prove it because there’s no lore supporting your claim.
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Enjoy your waiting Kiyoko, I already got Warlocks for all almost 2 years so you can just keep waiting and waiting while I’m over here enjoying that every new race brings Warlock class.
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All races for all classes, please.
But let’s have some transmog lore, glyphs etc to customize the experience so the race/class combo can make sense. If it we want it to make sense.
We already have ghost raptor glyphs for the likes of troll shamans and a fiery spell glyph for one ability for tauren paladins. MORE of that would be awesome. Silver spells for night elf priests/paladins! Golden sandy ones for vulpera, crackling jade for pandaren.
Pandaren druids could be connected to the August Celestials. Mechagnomes could turn into robotic beasts.
Darkspear troll paladins could learn to be prelates of Rezan like the Zandalari.
Void elf paladins could have void or starcursed color spells via a quest or something.
There are ways to do it that could be INCREDIBLY fun. Will Blizzard do it? Given that they have abandoned archaeology and glyphs, both already existing ways to achieve some class/race flavor, maybe not.
But they could.
Hey they added a glyph this expansion, it’s not as dead as archeology!
it seems like in the interest of streamlining they’re going to be making future paladins come from the reformed tyr’s guard so i imagine any of the non-paladin races joining up are willing to make the commitment and adhere to the ideals of that organization which seems in line with how the knights of the silver hand was founded. there was also the argent crusade which many non-paladin races were apart of. i doubt if an orc or a night elf went to him and asked to be trained as a paladin i doubt he would have went “nah you’re an orc/night elf, sorry, it’s not part of your culture. can’t do it.”
“I will establish a new branch of the Church, the paladins. I have already selected the first candidates for this order. Some were knights before but others were priests. I chose these men for both their piety and their martial prowess. They will be trained, not only in war but in prayer and in healing. And each of these valiant fighters will possess both martial and spiritual power, particularly in blessing themselves and others with the strength of the Holy Light."
Barbershop options are better, they should seriously move away from glyphs completely and put everything that’s glyph tied in the barbershop, yes it would take a bit of work due to certain classes but with Warlock demon customization and Druid form customization it’s been a vast improvement to have them barbershopped instead of glyphs.
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Its also not really what he meant by it. He said that Blizzard was going to take their time and apply lore with those setups not so much that they’d abandoned adding the classes to other races at all.
Goblin shamans make perfect sense.
Both!
I think glyphs best do spell modifications, and it could be an easy source of gold for scribes.
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