DK is great in PvP

I keep seeing people cry about DK. In reality it’s S tier. The only issue with DK is the same as its always been. It’s only good in cleaves and with Hunters. TSG, Walkingdead, and Ret/DK are all S tier comps. They’re amazing against Ret and Mages.

Sure, Unholy isn’t that great but Frost is godly. Frost has never been great with casters.

DPS wise Frost DK is in a way better spot than DH, all 3 Warlock specs, all 3 Hunter specs, Ele/Enahnce, Feral, Frost/Arcane Mage, and Fury Warrior, Combat Rogue.

They’re on par with Warrior, WW, and Boomkin. Not Mage or Ret. They’re on a different level.

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No. But frost is good yeah.

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No they could use some buffing. S tier they are definitely not.

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I enjoy fighting DK’s (Warrior main). I feel that sometimes they have heavy damage incoming, but I’ve never been instagibbed. They seem to be able to survive decently well and a good DK will keep me slow or pulled.

Definitely serviceable. Give them something like Bone Wall :wink:

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People wouldn’t consider DKs to be underperforming if Warr/Ret/WW/FMage/boomkin existed.

Class balance is relative to one another, and some classes outclass DKs by miles.

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yeah you are right frost is good

but you need to much set up to do damage and cordination with your team

why would you play a spec that need a lot of practice to make it work when you can just play warrior, paly and most melees without having to worry about any of that and get prob better result

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FDK definitely not s tier but it’s good. The damage buff is welcomed. I also wish death strike was good. But overall frost doesn’t need too much. Just a little more damage and a little more survivability

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Frost is good tier, i saw some Frost DK doing more damage than the rets and arms by cleaving above 1800 brackets

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Of the classes people consider the worst (dk, dh, lock, hunter) dk is by far the best

Frost is definitely under rated, heartstop/delirium have sorta been carrying it im terms of misery to play against for a good while but also stuff like necrolord is great for them

I think as far as something being “bad” they’re definitely the place you’d want to be in where you at least have your niche and there’s something unique that you bring that nothing else does

I do think their entire viability stems with the usefulness/synergy of blinding sleet/necrolord/chill streak and the pure misery of heartstop delirium otherwise and would probably feel unenjoyable to play outside of that since you do nothing as frost otherwise

Entire specs success revolves around doing your go when your opponent wants to do theirs, and just waiting otherwise. Seems just as lame to play as it is to fight which causes it to be under rated

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Frost is not on par with WW or War. Boomkin kinda sucks outside of convoke and doesn’t belong in the same sentence

Chill streak should be baseline.

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You lose so much credibility with silly statements like this.

And this.

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I play with a hunter and disc usually and heart stop aura is actually a hard counter to us… kinda “cool” how a passive for just walking at someone ruins the game for my entire team…

Hitting 15 k star surges without incarn sucks huh

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The problem is if you buff DK then they will be God tier and that is unhealthy. DK is in a great spot as S tier and God tier broken specs need to be fixed/nerfed so they drop down to S tier. Then there would be more lower tier specs who can rise up since they aren’t oppressed by the broken God tiers.

The goal should be having more competitive specs especially in S tier.

my stuff ain’t even hit that hard in PVE without coolies lol.

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Frost is good. Unfortunately Unholy (which I prefer playing) sucks…
worst part is they are good in pve so prob no unholy buffs :frowning:

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Tbh unholy usually scales pretty well so it’ll prob be good when the game pace slows down which it has already started to.

Buffs to sustained damage and survivability wouldn’t make them God or S they’d just be good. Every other melee would still be better. The chillstreak setup burst is good but what else about them can you say is good? Without that what do they have?