The PvP nerfs from Dec 6th are still WAY over-tuned. Can we please revert half of the self-healing nerfs affecting Death Strike? I’m not even healing for the minimum percentage that should be guaranteed.
It’s bugged, and needs immediate attention.
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just do what the other dks are doing and play with rdruid or prevoker, youll see why they nerfed dks defensives then
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With improved DS for me (with current stats) it’s 11.2% guaranteed heals whereas in PvP it’s barely 6%. With the haste rating crunch making it really inefficient to spam DS when i’m almost dead it basically feels like a damn pinata where I can maybe live a few globals but GG.
I’m running virtually every possible defensive (talent wise) and it just feels awful. Of course in PvE one DS can heal me for over half my health in a typical M+ or Raid, yet in PvP DS=clickbait for globals.
I just wish someone would acknowledge the problem and let us know they will at least look into it.
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To your point I ran 3’s w/ an Arms War (me UDK) and a Preservation Evoker. We went 5 for 5, but I (and the Arms) almost died constantly throughout the game.
At the very least I shouldn’t have to compete with Arms (which has almost zero self-healing.) If anything I should be able to provide some form of bandwidth to sustain our team.
And yet there’s more DKs in the top 100 than DHs…
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In 3’s? Maybe today w/ an Evoker healer, but that won’t last given Preservation = DK crutch in terms of heals.
Here’s one example I snipped w/ a recent 2’s run. A Guardian Druid (who has less health in form than I do as UDK) gets a 298k Regrowth crit heal in an arena match.
(Screenshot HP Comparison) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vn2YgITTmVRht8gmqKCOm2qa-Z2mh2YP/view?usp=sharing
(Screenshot of Regrowth)https://drive.google.com/file/d/183pfyHd8xJwNniIprP2F9M6mV_eHhDBa/view?usp=sharing
Meanwhile as someone who used to be able to heal well beyond a 6% min return on Death Strike has to deal w/ this…
(Screenshot of best DeathStrike Average for Arena) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Qd3jmm1x_uKqEi5CZRqjWkXoQanEhyBG/view?usp=sharing
I get the bear is well… a bear. Outside of Lichborne talents which provides 15% mitigation + 10% Leech macro’d w/ a self-inflicting Death Coil (which heals far better than almost all of my Death Strikes) nothing else actually heals DK’s.
Magic Absorbs Excluded given this might as well be about dealing w/ most Melee dps cough Fury cough
dk is strong af… stop crying
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If you’re still playing DK after that run of nerfs the fault is your own.
it would be nice if DS did something yep
You need to run talents that buff your spellwarden honor talent. Spellwarden is your top heals/absorbs now instead. I would rather Death strike nerfs be reverted to maybe 20% instead of 50% and spellwarden nerfed since you can disarm the DK for example to prevent the deathstrikes or cc the DK. Deathstrike had counterplay and spellwarden doesn’t I had a game where a spriest and an aff lock procced my spellwarden 182 times according to my details.
Spellwarding has a “chance” to put on a 10% absorb shield and a blanket 3% dmg reduction, so it’s not much and 100% depends on RNG.
DS nerfs for PvP basically destroyed frost’s self-healing kit since UDK can somewhat kite and use pets to attack. The nerfs just need to be reverted (at least half.)
To this day Fury warrior has way better survivability and DK stands zero chance of killing a half decent Fury player. If we’re going to nerf half the classes in terms of self-healing kits nerf them all, or revert DK nerfs to widen the meta for Season 1.
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I would trade spellwarden all together to get my DS back. At least that’s a step in the right direction.
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I think most players in the DK community for advocating for something like this. Naturally, they were ignored.
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And to this day we are still ignored. This needs to be fixed now.
Reposting because this has gone on LONG enough.
Preservation Evoker needs to be tuned really bad as well.
Last comment of the evening. Now that players are realizing how janked DK’s are w/ their self-healing PvP is no longer fun since “elitist” will trash DK’s for failing to self-heal themselves…
Oh wait… that wasn’t our fault (looks at hotfixes from December 7th, 2022)
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Again: Despite your spam QQ about DK nerfs
No positive changes for UDK at all until Apoc/Army is aggressively nerfed to stop preventing players from doing full damage due to “hitting more than 5 targets”. It’s an unseen defensive that’s dropping your enemies damage by 40% because they’re hitting your fire-and-forget AI barf blob that has entirely too much health to kill.
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You probably don’t realize w/ out apoc/army UDK gets gutted completely. It’s OUR theme/gameplay.
They should just remove all forms of blind from paladins, and turn rets into a 7 GCD spec if you want eye for an eye.
very loudly, Nobody wants spellwarden its braindead passive rng giga self heals and magic exclusive. 0 skill expression