Discouraged disc scrub needs some advice

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I’ve been trying to rank in 2s, and am getting more and more frustrated. I’m not a great player. I peaked in wrath at like 1850 on a feral druid. I’ve played a lot of BGs, but very little arena.

I started rolling into matches, and began to improve. I learned when and where I was safe. Positioning is beginning to click. I’ve learned what spells I need to cast one. I always have to trinket sap, and I always need to lead with a radiance against burst teams.

Pain suppression won’t do anything to stop a burst from a fire mage and a rogue. Lots of hard lessons.

My problem is finding a decent partner, because practicing with pugs is making arena not worth doing. Every time I get a new one I have to start over. Because I’m low ranked I only attract other low ranked people. I have to give them 3-4 games to see if they’re any good, and often that’s 3-4 losses in a row.

When matches start I get things like people blowing cooldowns during the warmup, or just flailing during actual matches.

The best person I found so far was a WW monk, but he LoSed me like he was being paid to do it. I explained that teams were CCing and separating me, and that if he followed them out of sight that’s a loss.

I don’t know where to find a decent partner. I’m not good enough to carry. I’m hard stuck between 1300 - 1400. I can’t run skirms, because it always drops me into a 3s match, which I have little experience healing and isn’t applicable to 2s.

I don’t want to quit, but I’m so tired of getting a new partner, and then watching them make all the same mistakes. We’ll win a few, lose a few, and not progress at all.

Honestly? I thought I was a better player. The only character I’ve broken 1500 with is a ret paladin, but then after I lost that partner I’ve lost ~200 rating trying to find someone decent.

This whole process is just brutal, and I wish I had a strategy for improving. I don’t want to get carried. I just want to learn. But how do you do that when your partner pops wings 10 seconds before the match starts? =(

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Try 3s or RBG’s!

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I feel this post. I went to 1602 then lost my partner and dropped all the way down to like 1400. I rolled a new character, trying to match better with the few friends I have. It’s can be real brutal. I was thinking about paying for the skill capped guides, because i am not feeling like I can get better by playing while pugging. I’m sure there are ways but im running out of options for the most part.

My solution right now is to play rated battlegrounds. It takes longer but it is a way that I can get rating.

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If you’re a healer you can generally get DPS with higher XP than you. Look for like 1800 xp people.

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keep grinding brother. The healer life is not always easy, but soon when ur 1800 u will be able to pick up any chick u want at any bar in the world. supermodels, hot scientists, they all will be yours.

but yeh u r healer so get a higher xp dps. they are ur damage slave, nothing more always remember that.

and rogue,mage is very tough this meta, usually if its a shadowblades/combust opener i will always trinket,dome,PW:R etc. PS is NOT enough. then ofc hope they dont know how to blind me or reset lul

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Tbh I wouldn’t worry too much about the rating. That will come naturally the more you play/learn. If you’re looking to improve I would reccomend streaming/recording your games and maybe watching them and looking at what you personally could do better. Or if you have a higher xp friend have them take a look and see if there is something you could potentially do better.

In terms of partners I feel that. Unless you have friends who want to improve and care to improve with you it’s hard to attempt to climb rating or learn. LFG is a cesspool of toxic people that after 1 loss say “gg cya”. In terms of a good way around this I really don’t know one other than to maybe ask current friends (if you have any) or post in LFG you are looking for someone to learn with. Make your intentions very clear.

And pre much what the priest said above me is somewhat true. Rogue/mage in 2’s is really good. If the rogue/mages you’re fighting press combust/blades at the same time if you’re playing with a class with an immunity just toss it out. Or if not potentially use your trinket and dome them. Make sure you’re radiance talent into it. Radiance is insane at the moment. Other than that it’s mostly just communicating with your partner about next setup/potential kill windows. Try not to overuse but don’t underuse as well.

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Whenever there’s a mage on the other team, I always switch to thoughtsteal now. Stealing their poly can be pretty huge. Of course you have to learn how to survive the opener first, but then polying one of them afterwards pretty much seals the game. Also, practice shadow word: death out of the full dr poly, it’ll really ruin their combo.

The biggest thing is coordinating with your partner so they know when to pop defensives. If you’re doing LFG without discord, this is going to be very difficult. But if you can coordinate to survive 2dps cooldowns, you pretty much win after that.

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You’re not queing enough. Sorry to say it bro but you legit need to que THOUSANDS of arenas in order to comfortably climb to 2k+ as a new player. You need a lot of practice, we all do which is why we keep queing. Also try to play with a friend or 2 and climb with them. Finding new people all the time doesn’t help you gain rating.

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A lot of playing a healer is being incredibly greedy with your trinket and believing in your CDs.

You don’t want to trade 3 CDs for 1 or if you are in CC and your partner pops defensives you honestly have to believe he will survive (unless they pop every offensive on their team).

Just pick up on game knowledge as you play, learn what you can sit and what you have to trinket, rely on your partner’s cooldowns as well. The Healer’s trinket is the most important cooldown in arena

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I’d be willing to play with you on my Frost DK. Disc is pretty tanky right now in my experience.

I’ve also been stuck in 1400s despite easily getting 1800+ the past two seasons

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In a similar boat (historic rating/experience) - let’s do some 2s! Hurloon#11921

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I’ll play as well, Ragnarvor#1423

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lol what? no. no no thats uh thats not good.

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I didn’t claim to be good, but having lost a LOT of matches where I rode out a sap, and my partner died, I started trinketing and won more than one match, because now I could keep my partner alive through burst.

I’m sure I do all sorts of stupid things. I’m not trying to get to Gladiator.

Thanks to those who offered advice! I’ll message those who replied. Would love to run some chill games. Played more on my Paladin and climbed to 1500, but I enjoy the priest more.

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I play disc a decent lvl 2.3exp current 1944cr in 2’s if you want add me Juzrhyme#1441 I can help u a bit

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then u need to try and get into combat earlier.

against mage rogue its not really an option all the time but,

soon as the mage drops out of invis try and get yourself into combat with them.

If you trinket the sap, then ur boned. CAuse all thats gonna happen, is the rogue is gonna kidney you off the sap, and then ur gonna get blinded off the kidney, and then sheeped off the blind.

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as much as i hate to say it,

IF you are sap, its your partners responsibility to break the rogues opener. YOu cant trinket until blind is used, unless you are a god and will death it.

IM new to disc too but im slowly climbing on him and what ive learned is across all healers, its better to blow the CD and burn the mana than it is to hold. I trade rapture in 3s first usually. In 2s against double dps i often have to trade greater barrier instantly on any opener.

as for disc, Im feeling like its an ABC class, no down time, always casting something.

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The matchups I’m talking about are rogue / feral, or rogue / mage ,or rogue / hunter. Just get into combat…how do I do that exactly?

So I eat the sap because there’s no way not to eat the sap. Now they’re opening on my partner. Tell me, great one, what button do you press? What thing do you do?

They had stealth, so they got the opener. If I don’t trinket my partner is dead before I could out. You’re telling me I’m bad for trinketing.

Now I win those games, because I trinket, CC one of them, and start healing my companion. You’re literally telling me that the thing that I change that is definitely 100% leading to wins is a bad idea.

But you can’t explain how to avoid it. Don’t get in combat lol. Do you have any idea how many fire mage / rogue combos you’ll face alone?

So give me your wisdom great one. You’re telling me I’m bad. What am I doing wrong?

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well to be honest ur partner shouldn’t die in the sap if he pops defensives (not sure what partner u are using though this is easier for some calsses then others). he should also be stacked right on top of you so if htey do open on you, they can hit you out of sap with cleave damage and break their CC.

Im gonna be honest man, if i see a priest trinket my sap im like “lol ez gg win” .

Maybe it works in lower ranks but my advice is have your partner trinket the opening stun IMEDIATELY and pop w/e CC and defensives they have. Anything to reduce that incoming damage.

The rogue mage will KS/CS into a sheep on you off sap. But good rogue mage wont sap you cause it shares DR with sheep. IF you can stay mounted and close with ur partner, u can often tap the mage before they get a good position to open on you guys.

i play rogue mage so yes

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this is 100% it. Trinketing sap is not a good idea and it will guaranteed lose you more games then it wins you.

Your parnter needs to pull their weight as well, and they should not die in an 8 second sap.

Like i said before, when i play mage rogue, I don’t even sap priest, i just kidney priest and CS our damage target, then the mage follows up the Kidney with a sheep.

That forces CD’s and trinkets, then we reset, wait for stun to come off Dr, and do it again.

USually we win or lose by second reset, but if we haven’t, we reset and do it again.