So, i’ve recently Started doing PvP as other Healing classes for fun, and tried out Disc Priest for a little while now, I know there is alot of posts that talk about how weak they are performing unless you have incredibly good teamates with insane peel potential (and even thn). I don’t think i’ve read anywhere about it (admitting iI didn’t search more thn enough) but I personaly feel like Disc need a simple mobility change, may it be a slight immunity too at LEAST slows or a movement ability like Heroic Leap or Blink because really, I don’t know if it is my lake of experience as a disc priest, but there is very VERY little i can do against most melee once they’re on my back, Rogue and DKs specialy are insanely painful as we do not have anything to remove their slows and Feather doesn’t make us move even enough to balance it to normal speed.
Edit: maybe a pvp talent or minor trait a bit like the Absorb Fade one (Sanctum) that make Levitate on CD and instead gives u immunity to impairing effects. maybe even root since u are basicaly flying if it ain’t too OP, i feel like we need something along side our AOE fear just to have a lil breath to run from Rogues and DKs.
Maybe, like i said, i’m just not a good enough Dis Priest, but there is not a single healing Class i feel more trained on thn Disc Priest.
Focused will nerf needs to be reverted so bad and they added weakened soul to our shields while only buffing them by 10% in pvp. It is so fun being able to only press shadow mend or a penance which has a CD as heals when being trained.
well of course i didn’t mean like Blessed Hands / Freedom or Shimmer, I was rly just thinking of a like 45 sec CD Levitate “get immune to slows for like 3 sec” maybe even 2 (paired with Feather would be plenty enough) but maybe you are right, i actualy forgot about Focused Will as i didn’t play Disc during that time, but if that’s enough who am I to whine about a Class I only started to Play.
I’d be okay with getting reflective shield back, or giving our improved dome a similar effect. You can try Ripple in Space for mobility on some maps for breathing room, but it’s rough.
I think you just defined freedom with the ‘immune slows for 3 seconds’ thing. That paired with feather is actually exactly like a pally using freedom + horsey. lulz
I think disc being tanky would be a better fit, with some actual (sustained) healing output.
Rn one of their biggest problems is that they are to squishy, not mobile, and their healing output kinda sux.
The hardest part about being trained on disc is your globals. Rapture is on global, Achangel is on global, barrier is on global, the only thing that isn’t on global for disc survivability is Pain Suppression. Also Penance is good, but with push back you cast 30k healing over 2 seconds. This is NOT enough… Penance needs to be immune to pushback.
When it comes to disc priest mana, you apply purge the wicked on 3 targets and youre already down 6% mana. If you wish to minmax your healing you can also dot pets and then you push somewhere toward 10% mana just to get your dots rolling before they expire in 20 seconds.
Purge the wicked cost too much mana despite spreading when using penance offensively on a purged target.
Rightfully we should oom when spamming shadowmends, but not from applying our dots to benefit from atonement.
Trinity PvP talent should also reduce the mana cost of your damaging abilities as well.
Discs used to have mobility with 2x focused will, mop and wod had feathers at 70% i believe and spectral guise or phantasm to give a 4 or 5 second freedom with fade. Spec just has 40% feather for mobility which is a big xd. Even holy has acess to greater fade which is just insane on its own level and access to feathers like disc.
Ya but tbh I always felt like spectral guise and big feathers were kinda dumb for priests, in MoP at least there were also hundreds of ways to deal with it but yeah
MoP priest was holy though anyways
I still feel like Legion/Cata disc were a lot better design wise
Lower mobility but lots of utility to bring to the table, susceptible to being trained but also could survive with great peels too.
I don’t remember if the inner buffs coexisted with focused will, and I don’t dispute that current state of disc vs melee is a crime, but focused will of wod and legion was terrible ungameplay and I’ll be sad to see it come back if it does
And disc still would get slain by melee cleaves with those
Disc comps vs melee cleaves at least were fast paced and scary for both sides in Legion and even turbo vs disc in BfA season 1, it just happened that WWs and Dks weren’t very good so melee cleave diversity was much lower
But all of those comps destroyed disc anyways, they simply just need the mechanic - also prevents non melee comps from deciding to randomly just kill disc just because it’s a disc (i.e mage teams training disc is hilariously effective when disc is also vulnerable to CC to begin with, but since disc can be W keyed strats that make it impossible to create error are optimal).
I think we all agree that disc needs more and better tools
"You passively have shamanistic rage 100% of the time you’re being attacked by a melee"isn’t a tool imo, it doesn’t confer any gameplay choices onto the disc. It needs something, but I’d sure like it if that something isn’t a passive
Disc has so many things it needs to activate to begin with and GCDs own them
Dome change also really sucked for disc and that spell had counterplay by pmuch every melee cleave anyways
I do actually think the passive works for disc and it’s not really even that horrible because they’ll still be dying through it (plus only procs from melee attacks)
I normally dislike passives but this is one that fits well, and again like I said disc already has so many other active and mediocre abilities I feel like another isn’t really going to do anything to help them in any way
Replace shadow mend with flash heal and buff the sht out of it because having 2 healing schools that dont heal for much isnt fun playstyle but this is a pve game so prob unrealistic.
im about to get my rank 3 crucible, and on tuesday ill have rank 3 conflict.
best thing to do right now as disc is probably to just play exclusively 2s until they fix the class in 3v3, and you’re either playing as a DPS in 2v2 (shadow traits, offensive essences and DPS talents) or you’re dead
Oh yeah strength of soul nerf made some sense going into bfa because of being able to spam shield but then shield spam got fixed which was good because it was actually stupid, but strength of soul should have been changed back but pvp devs …
I mean, pretty much anything could be compared to this at this point thn (Monk’s Tiger’s Lust + Roll), but it’s not a Freedom/Horsey we are (I am) asking for, feather is 40%, not 100%, and my Idea (which again, may still be a bad idea) was to give Priest a 2-3 sec immunity to slows, not a 8 second freedom, also we still can’t get rid of Rogues’ poison wich is imo a big deal as well compared with other healer (the ones that cannot deal with it have generaly speaking higher mobility or at the very least Passive healing [Ghost Wolf])
but yes, like most of you are saying it looks like Priest never rly had any movement in the first place and just need to get back their “Tankiness”
i think they should have clarity of will or something perhaps.
cuz if u kick shadow all they rly have is penance and thats on a CD . they kinda need 2 spells since they have zero mobility. they r kinda like the tankier / shieldier healer with less mobility