Dire Maul coming out next week

give us the new AH too.

if you want progression, BFA mythic raid are there for you.

molten core is more of a ‘’ one-shot everything up to and including rag unless your raid is brain-dead’’ kind of deal.

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That’s exactly what all these Zoomers want.

cause it’s a step.

not a big enough step, but a step in the right direction nevertheless.

as i’ve said above, if we keep pushing maybe we can get BGs in november.

Where I am from, we use terms like VC, USA, and Merica…

No. I’m the guildmaster of a 300+ active player guild and I’ve been farming rag for weeks. All of my BIS is done. I’m the 1%.

ooooooooooor…

new MMO wouldn’t be holding back on releasing content.

Actually it’s kind of the opposite that happen : content get rushed through the gate to keep people happy…good thing we don’t really have to worry about the ‘rushed’ part since it’s all done, and blizz just have to turn a switch on.

and hey, we do have many example of MMO doing classic/ TLP stuff : EQ for example have it’s classic server release content at 5X (or faster) the original rate just to keep player interested!

indeed, things are much larger than your narrow field of view… too bad history and reality isn’t on your side.

good for you!

the argument remains, and withholding content cause some people play more than other remains stupid, doesn’t matter who said it.

Not really a fan of this. Not because I’m not 60 yet (hit 55 today, had a 10 day vacation in So Cal 2 weeks ago). But because I’m worried Blizz is pushing the timeline too fast in general. DM launched 3 1/2 months after Vanilla released. Now we’re getting it in 7 weeks?

And I don’t see who this benefits. Those who burned through content and got to 60 in a few weeks who’ve cleared MC 4-5 times and killed Ony maybe 7? That population is guaranteed to be less than 1% of the player base. Those folks really don’t need the loot provided from DM. While there might be a few pieces that upgrade them in the short term, most of it will be improved through raiding. And it won’t benefit the many players who are level 53 and below who are still working on leveling up - since they won’t be running DM at launch. So we’re talking them relatively small number of players who are 1) Level 54-59 when DM releases (since you need to be at least level 54 to start equipping drops from DM), or 2) Level 60 players who don’t plan on raiding. And its that 2nd group that REALLY worries me. It’s 6 weeks since Classic launched and I get the feeling Blizzard is already getting ready to cater to the “I’m max level and don’t want to raid but still want great loot” crowd. The exact thing many feel lead to the disaster we see in WoW Retail today.

Also, I imagine that Quel’Serrar will be coming with DM (I mean, why wouldn’t it). Top tier tanking weapon that lasts until Naxx that’s essentially AH purchasable (with only needing to kill Ony after buying it) only weeks after Classic launch doesn’t worry anyone else?

Again, not seeing why it’s better that DM launch next week instead of several months down the road with P2. Then again, I’m not playing a class that can solo farm DM for tons of gold either…so maybe that’s it…

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Not sure why people care. If mc maintained its lengthy tedious grind fest and people wanted to better reproduce that it makes sense. However, mc is a 1 hr faceroll. Dm will just make it a 50 minute faceroll.

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I feel like I play a crap load, and I am only level 54, just enjoying myself throughout the process. I wish I had more time to play, but now I shall have another dungeon to run and WPvP soon, I cannot wait!

Citation needed.

You don’t have an argument. Your entire routine here is nothing more than “i’ve got mine, nobody else matter, roll out content the instant i want it, it doesn’t matter how far behind me anyone else is”. You have no sense of pacing or balance.

It’s not about me as an individual, or any individual. It’s the broad philosophy behind the game. And a rush mentality is not what I thought Classic was about. It was about the experience, the journey. Soaking it in and taking our time. Instead Blizzard is just basing decisions on the small amount of players who throw that experience and journey to the wayside, and speed through it all.

If this is who Blizzard is trying to appeal to, then so be it. But that’s not me. And it’s not the philosophy I thought was behind Classic. But I’m not a rash person. I’ll take some time and think things through before making a decision.

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Its obvious that vanilla fans were not who blizz was catering to. But. Retailers.

Yeah cause having a life is bad…what are you 16? lol…

I’m not sure why you keep blaming retail players when it was the private serer community doing the majority of rushing.

If you’re playing Classic for the Raids - you’re probably a retailer.

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Clearly blizzard forgot how faceroll vanilla was/is.

You know that old saying, if you tell a lie and tell it a lot, it suddenly becomes the truth. This was pretty much the population that were fixated on the “difficulty” of Vanilla.

Classic raiding/progression is a joke by modern retail raiding. Classic raids are basically LFR. Just faceroll.

it’s literally in what you’ve bolded.

go look up everquest TLP server; the release date of the different expansion are public and pre-determined. Selo’s, mangler and so on. they release expension on a 3 month or a 6 month schedule, some of them bundled together ( LoY with PoP, PoR with DoDH… original only lasting 3 month instead of 2-something year and so on).

You don’t have an argument. Your entire routine here is nothing more than “i’ve got mine, nobody else matter, roll out content the instant i want it, it doesn’t matter how far behind me anyone else is”. You have no sense of pacing or balance.

no, the argument is people at the top are already leaving classic cause there’s nothing to do… and there is nothing to do after your weekly clear. you can’t expect people to just come back in 3 months or however long it take to get BGs out… only a fraction of those who leave will come back.

on the other hand, your argument is ‘’ well, some people aren’t here YET, so we should all wait for them’’… as if that happened back in 2004, or as if the once-a-week casual logger will ever ‘catch up’ to the hardcore-minded.