This isnt a deathmatch. You have to play to get the gear
I can only handle so many strawmans and hyperboles in one thread.
…Does anyone else in this entire thread even have more then 3 characters fully geared?
I guarantee you they probably aren’t crying about gear and putting work in, unlike you.
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Fully geared. No. But I have nearly 5. And working on 6 and 7. My Evoker hit 70 last week and is nearly in fully honor gear and I got that they day I hit 70. Gearing isn’t hard at all. I actually spend lvl 69 to 70 just spamming BGs now which makes it so I can get a lot of honor pieces right at 70. You can also do the spark quest at lvl 60. So you can get some trophies before you even hit 70.
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I literally have more geared characters than you, Archdaemonus
https://imgur.com/a/BC5H6s8
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The point being is that its not hard its that there is no real good catch-up system for alts. Fully honor gear pretty much gets one shot now. I actually have all my characters fully conquest geared and with the conquest cap it took about 2 months with the vault every week. Without the cap its probably around 3 to 4 weeks.
In WoD I could do this in 2 weeks with Ashran.
The main issue (which trolls in this thread bombarded with strawmans) not that its impossible its that the method of doing so is not fun IF you started late.
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I would agree with this as far as conquest gear go ya. There should be boxes or bonus conquest for alts up to a certain point or something. They had a conquest catchup for alts in BfA if I remember right. Like a 50% bonuses or something.
Ya but I mean spamming Ashran was crap-o-la imo lol. But I get your point.
I level toons just to gear them in PvP. I enjoy it a lot especially after Shadowlands lol. But yes, there is still improvements that need to happen.
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Cool story! All of my alts aren’t listed, and I’m conveniently also not crying on the forums about nonexistent gear issues! Probably because I’m not bad at the game but I’m sure you can’t relate.
I wonder why lol
You don’t even do Arena. Also please don’t tell me all your gear is from plugging as the only viable tank right now in rbgs.
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I don’t play tanks in rbgs and I don’t do arena because I don’t enjoy arena. Almost like you can earn gear in other ways in pvp besides arena.
You could always throw out more nonesense and make it 14 :o
Forums is better without you big guy
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what fun would that be, and did you just assume my gender?
No you told me 
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Ok. Stop.
Ashran was not PvP. It was a pve theme park. In DF I can actually play BGs to get honor. Ashran sucked compared to playing BGs. Didn’t care if it was faster than DF because it was not fun. Ever.
Wow PvP community wants some progression. This was discussed a lot in SL forums. If you want zero progression, this is not your type of game. Your very minority opinion should be ignored by the devs.
Honor was a stupid grind in SL. This was why Spoils of War was a thing, for a long time. DF honor grind is the best it has ever been. They should not change a thing going forward.
Conquest, ehh. The only thing I want them to add is the BfA WQs that reward a small amount of conquest, like 50.
The power difference exists but is not as bad as SL, which was much more oppressive.
DF is great on gear acquisition. Balance changes come often and is always a hard one to make perfect.
The PvP community is happy with DF. It’s not perfect, but it is good!
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I geared in about 2 weeks. Wasn’t bad at all. Full honor gear scales to 411, which is only 13 ilvl difference from full conquest geared.
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I never said its not good, just in areas where it can improve and BE perfect.
Every thing looks better then SL and BfA because they were THE WORST for PVP this games ever been. Thats not to say that DF could not be perfect though. Reason why I bring up Ashran while yes very boring, it gave players a way to get into content without “grinding” (getting one shot over and over again)
DF so far is my favorite expac, that’s why I would like to see gearing in it a tad better for alts. If I could gear as many alts as I did in WoD I would actually be addicted to this game.
That is a MASSIVE difference. Again, I dont know what groups people are getting into, but I literally 2 shot people in full honor gear.
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It is easier than its ever been to get into PvP… the only question is if it’s even worth getting into. It’s such a stupid zug zug fest with ridiculous out of control damage. You kill whoever you look at until someone looks at you before you look at them.
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Not sure how geared you want people to be once they hit 70 in an MMO. Part of the game is leveling up and gearing up.
Yes, and I am fine with that, its fun! Whats not fun is not being able to play because everyone outgears you.
idk I hit 70 February 4th this past month, so very fresh 70. Wasn’t many issues for me. Was like most other expansions.