Did you guys like the new Lord of the Rings show?

You literally just proved that you’re only against the show because of the skin color of a few characters.

That’s pretty low.

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It’s that you know what the difference is, like House of Dragon with a diverse cast is succeeding, and Rings of Power despite having positive reviews and against an audience that knows it’s a failure and an insult to the Tolkien community Is the series doing badly?

is that one thing that J.R.R. Martin by tendency considers himself a feminist despite a literary work that has only been in existence for a few years, unlike a book that has been in existence for more than a century and puts against his conservationist ideals that the author himself put in question. his works.

And like this idiot Vulpera who says:

One of the reasons why conservationism manages to preserve the good things that with the advancement of society are not destroyed, which has been achieved so far, something because Peter Jackson’s films, despite the fact that much more is missing than what is recounted in the book, was enough to have the success that Amazon still envies. thing that his arrogant and mediocre radical revolutionism only destroy everything that has been done well to later redo less of what others have done with the effort that others have done, he only wants to make the wheel, when it has already been done and by the way the they destroy and mutilal it, they PROFAN IT That’s why what you say, you don’t care about anything, not life, not art, not love, not anything but yourself and your ego in being in trend of any fashion that is reflected to a :poop::poop::poop::poop: today.

While you are claiming that you hate everything you see.

Because if Will Smith and Jamie Fox were excellent actors representing characters that are not of their race in Men in Black and the other Django, BECAUSE THEY DID NOT SPIT IN THE FACE OF YOUR AUDIENCE, they did not insult that it is not their turn to see and at the same time see that they force them to see, because they showed that they are worthy actors that other actors are not now.

That is why there is a difference between black people actors do the right thing, others do not, what is appropriate to do and others do not.

As your idiot, you allow a mediocre authoritarianism and sensationalist totalism in which all Hollywood actors have to be of that race no matter how well or badly they play their role because in the end what you do and insult me of what I think.

It’s you just reaching fascism.

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It’s an adaptation. Which leaves anything up in the air with how whoever is producing it to do as they like. I saw a quote of the original author saying he didn’t care how you interpret or change about the show.

But as the picture shows, anything that isnt straight and white is applied something malicious. Which you’re doing now.

Here is something that will be surprising: Having a gay character, non white character, or a woman on a show isn’t going to get your show blacklisted from being published like it was a few years ago.

This means that those characters will keep showing up in media whether you like it or not. It’s not some quota, or “forced.” It’s simply showing you what the world around you is based on. Media represents the stuff around you.

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And Warhammer was based on D&D which was based on LotR which was based on Norse Mythology.

Incidentally D&D also inspired Final Fantasy as well as it’s two Spinoffs: the World of Mana Franchise and Kingdom Hearts Franchise.

Kingdom Hearts seems to be particularly based on Planescape. There are even hints in KH3 and KH Dark Road that the “Belief Shapes the Planes” rule is in effect in the Kingdom Hearts Multiverse.

in fact Final Fantasy is not based on almost anything, unless everything in this epic fantasy was inspired by the works of Tolkien.

Kingdoms Hearts, it’s just KH, one more crazy game with a Disney adaptation just because the Square Enix offices were together with Disney in Japan.

This would be true, except that its taking place on Middle-Earth, based on Tolkien’s imagination from him living in England during the 19th/20th Century.

I’m all for diversity, but it doesn’t make sense in this context. People of Harad, Khand, and Rhun would obviously have darker skin. Numenoreans? No. Elves? No. Tolkien described very clearly the appearance of characters in the Lord of the Rings trilogy and in the Silmarillion.

Like sorry your world view is so fragile that everything MUST have a racially diverse cast or its considered too white / racist.

There are Monsters from D&D’s Bestiary in the Early Final Fantasy Games as well as the Mana Franchise!

Beholders and Sahuagin also appear in the Mana Franchise.

I’m not the only one who noticed this: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/522595-final-fantasy/64259498

D&D Monsters also appear in Castlevania which is blatantly based on Ravenloft.

I came across an article that mentions people applying this to him and a quote misrepresented to argue what you say. If i remembe correctly, he never cared about this or anyone adapting his work with more diverse people.

Also, non white people were in england during that time period.

It’s really time to move on from crying about things like these

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Yes, D&D and Warhammer were HEAVILY influenced by Tolkien’s works as well as Greek, Roman, Norse and many other real world mythology. And LOTR is HEAVILY influenced by Beowulf.

Well I’m just not going to watch it. The casting choices are wildly unrealistic.
The music doesn’t match either. Lots of non-canon characters, Galadriel doing things her character did not do in the books.

Everything about this show screams its a woke cashgrab that wants to cash in on the success of Tolkien.

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Like I said earlier, a diverse cast is not a problem if it makes sense for the cast to be diverse.

Also, Peter Jackson’s LOTR series were very close to the books, but the Hobbit trilogy should have just been one movie, but they added a ton of filler to stretch it into three movies, but even that filler was not a egregious as in Rings of Power (so far).

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Exactly. Thank you.

If this show was based on original source material, NOBODY would be putting up this much of a fuss about it.

I’m happy if people want a diverse cast of Elves and Dwarves etc. That’s all well and good. Please, why don’t they do that instead.

But its taking from something that already exists and is a success on its own and they’re trashing it / rewriting it.

This is all about money.

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And that is perfectly fine man. You don’t have to like everything. Game of throne was the biggest show for years, did I watch it? No. It wasn’t for me. But a lot of people enjoyed it.

If the show isn’t for you, then that’s fine. if it It isn’t, That’s it. No harm done. I’m sure a lot of people are gonna enjoy the show, good for them.

Welcome to capitalism.

I am planning to not watch it either. Hollywood is focusing more on identical politics within their movies/shows than telling telling a good stories or respecting the source materials

I watch TROP and the black elf didn’t spit in my face at all. What were you watching? Sure it wasn’t a fan edit? Skin color was never mentioned or hinted at. He just existed.

What do you mean authoritarianism. Hollywood isn’t a government. It’s trying to make money. It’s literally capitalism at play (which I am a strong advocate of).

the new series has been pretty boring honestly, I was hoping for better pacing and better story and MUCH better story hooks

pretty though, and nice music

The show runners don’t have the rights to the Silmarillion so have to rely on the LOTR appendixes

I am.

Unlike the other works set in the same universe, it is not a slog or a sausagefest.

Don’t get me wrong, I really enjoyed ‘The Hobbit’, despite the over-descriptiveness and lack of female characters. For some stories, it works (ie Covenants by Lorna Freeman). But I found the trilogy such a slog, I never got past the first book (it should not take a page and a half, to describe a meadow for crikey’s sake!).

The movies, I also found a slog and a sausagefest. Yes, there were epic character moments (ie Boromir’s death), epic relationship moments (ie Gimli and Legolos) and epic plot moments (ie Battle of Helms Deep) but the getting there was definitely an uphill battle for me. And, for such a long story, I found both characterization and relationship build-up lacking in numerous instances.

So, for me, Amazon’s ‘Rings of Power’ is a breath of fresh air. In two episodes, I have a gotten a better feel of who the majority of characters are as people, not just their placement within the plot, and am therefore able to actually like and care/emotionally invest in them. I have female characters I can root for and enjoy the triumphs of. And, most of all, I am finding the story build-up entertaining on its own merits instead of waiting for an obviously set-up payoff.

Now the big one. Black dwarfs and elves. I am not a fan of either. I find them immersion-breaking. Yes, even in WoW. If that makes me a racist, fine. They are both descended from european caucasian mythology/legend/folklore, described specifically as white and I can be a strong, stubborn purist in this area. I am the same way when it comes to other ethnicity’s mythology/legends/folklore and don’t want to see caucasian ifrits, peris or kitsune either.

BUT, in this show, the two characters who come under this heading won me over within the first few minutes of their time on-screen. The black female dwarf woman become simply a wonderful, warm, smart and fun female dwarf, rendering her skin color simply the color of her skin. And the scene where the black elf managed to remain elf-stoic while still emoting strong yearning blew me away. Really brought the whole ‘have to work twice as hard to be seen as just as having the same measure’ home to roost, not to mention proving representation works to promote normalization.

So anyone on the fence, I would strong suggest trying it. The characters are interesting and entertaining (Nori is so lovable!), the relationships are being demonstrated, built and/or fleshed out organically within the story, the developing plot is strong and present without overshadowing or drowning out everything else and, yes, it is very pretty!

It is still high fantasy but more.

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It’s just that the concept of Final Fantasy is far away from D&D’s, it’s different.

Among an example would be the races they lead, which will almost not always be the elves, and another the concept of the Bahamut that unlike the dragons no matter how equal you see them, their concept and nature is very different from the nature not only of Tolkien Also from the same board game.

For me, the closest to D&D is the Record of Loddoss War franchise.

is what I mean, and for any movie that changes the race of a character whose ethnicity is so to speak white.

Such as the case that Amazon did not learn what Netflix made as more than 2 times the mistake.

Such a case as Death Note and Resident Evil were cancelled, and before that they were praised, acclaimed, praised by sensationalist yellow press who are supporting political ideologies only to later retract that this series was crap.

As for the film adaptation, especially the first trilogy, I should say that it was missing more, but a simple bite was enough to like us, one reason why Stanley Kubrick was afraid that no one would make that Tolkien movie, apart from his perfectionism than from more successful than he did a trilogy before Peter Jackson, he wasn’t satisfied as he was with what he did in The Shining.

But not in the Tolkien world, as the author would also have repudiated the existence of LGBT’s elfs.

something that has nothing to do with another race called Dark elfs, whose dark color was more like a pale person influenced by dark magical forces.

That’s why if you want to be proud of your own arrogance to the forced trend towards meaningless diversity and inclusion, we have these Warcraft and Final Fantasy MMO’s that would give you those elves you wanted.

Tolkien was a devout catholic and his stories reflect this. Very black and white, good and evil, so on and so on

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