Buff holy priests, nuff said
Lol, Hpal in here on his alt
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Havent played since the buffs went live, but would not shock me at all if they were s tier after these buffs.
All these disgusting rdruid are already prepared to defend their overtune buff.
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Just let the ladder sort itself out⊠if theyâre over represented and itâs obvious, nerfs will come.
Remember Disc priests season 1? Remember Rshaman Riptide spec?
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Happy to see rdruid get buffed.
Oh look! More QQ by Dilly.
Oh Noes! Resto druids arenât now locked to wizcleaves and arenât forced to max range NOURISH spam!! Quick nerf them.
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To be fair rdruids are prolly the most nightmareish healer to deal with when op. Hots then alt tab is a very basic way to output a ton of healing, then they can just shapeshift to avoid a ton of cc. Their kit is very basic but powerful baseline.
Like gl if your team dosent have a spamable purge. Cuz theyâll just sit there and only refresh their hots while keeping people topped is not healthy gameplay.
Class kits are so basic right now (a problem with pruneing in general for many different classes) it dosent make it easier to balence, it just really hightlights the imbalences. So classes are either stoopidly underpowered, or brokenly overpowered.
This actually will still lock them more into wizardcleaves which is pretty much what Iâm saying is the issue, it doesnât make the rdruid comps any more diverse youâd still play the same comps which were effective theyâre just better, and I also said Rdruids shouldnât go oom from casting clone or using utility. Iâve always felt what made Resto Druid unique as other healers was even though their hots werenât as bursty for healing, they would utilize cloning in order to keep themselves ahead. For most of this xpac even when theyâve been strong cloning isnât usually that great of an option because itâs just really inefficient which seems very backwards to me (and Iâve seen many experienced Rdruids think the same thing).
Iâm not even really personally upset by the changes but I think itâs very highly possible we just get a repeat of the first BfA cup and rdruids get nerfed hardcore once more.
the ladder is literally 90% MW Hpala and Disc why would you say something so disingenuous?
community loves you man but you are sow low key bias toward your beloved comp and its the most obvious thing in the universe to literally everyone on the forum but you apparently
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Itâs funny bc if I lose to any healer itâs most likely a Druid, you know why?
Cuz they simply bash me on cd and get a cd almost every time.
Having bear form and poly immunity should hinder a classes healing a little, but they just have the best of both worlds with bear form.
Also wtf is nourish 60k heals when my holy light crits for like 50k non divine favor.
Nourish only heals for 60k when it crits after applying full hots. That requires 10.2 seconds of free casting assuming no hot has fallen off, or 5.1 seconds if you have pre hosted. Other than that it might be 1 in 10 casts that crit which is nothing major. Every rdruid I see playing nourish usually ends up using regrowth for the most part anyway.
I played a little rdruid tonight. It definately felt better but not âgod likeâ as the forum suggests. Might be a different story once mastery starts building up but we wonât know that for a few weeks.
dusted off emmadruid can confirm rdru is a bit strong!!!
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I was actually playing w/ a lot the end of last season and spriest rdruid hunter is probably my favorite comp next to jungle amyways. Rdruids this season were already gaining popularity though before any changes were made anyways.
I wasnât the only person thinking this either though, a lot of other high rated/tourney players thought rdruids were in a good place and were shocked by the buffs. Iâm never one to judge just rep alone because thereâs plenty of times a spec is good and it doesnât have high rep.
Every healer I felt had comps they were the best with though before any changes. Thatâs generally how I define healer balance - if everyone has some T1 comp they can play thatâs best with them.
Again guys⊠what I trying to say is we didnât need that much of a buff. Iâd rather not get nerfed hard again.
Saying rdruid was bad is just a lie. We were very good if used in the right hands.
We were not that bad before, but we were not good as MW/HPal/Rshaman. Now I think we are all at the basically same level. Disc Priests being slightly behind (#BuffDisc!).
IMO, people believe druids are too strong because they get used to fight the over-nerfed version of resto druids, which made their life much easier and didnât require much counterplay to score a kill: was easy to make us fall behind and our heals werenât strong enough to catch up after a mid-long chain cc without forcing us to use heavy defensive cds/swiftmends. Now this picture have changed and people need to go back and start to exploit druidâs weaknesses to land kills.
We can be killed, we still run oom (much earlier than HPals and MWs tbh) and we are still very susceptible to long cc chains just like we were before, but what I noticed after playing several games yesterday is that people forgot how to counter/force druids to do what they need to create the win condition and they keep trying to use the same strategies they were using before the buffs.
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RDruids are better than all healers tbh. Saw Gorecki switch from Shaman to Druid and go up in mmr, same with Cdew. They even out manaed Hpal god comp severely.
No news here, the spec is now fixed and they are top players, would you expect that after the fixes went live they wouldnât try it? Would you expect them to tank their rating? I mean⊠whatâs the point of your example?
We are better than we were before, but I donât believe we are better than other healers. Yes, some comps are stronger with resto druids but there are still other strong comps that works better with other healers. This is expected when things are, somehow, balanced.
As I said on my previous post, I think people get used to fight against the overly nerfed version of resto druids and now most of people donât know exactly how to counter.
Yesterday I fought against mid to high experienced players helping a friend (including Dno and Floormat on 2âs and Vigarst, a multi R1 DK) and itâs easy to tell the difference between players who know how to counter resto druids properly from those who were just pressing buttons until somebody dies.
Just an example, one of the teams we faced was a resto Sham + Fury (arround 19xx mmr), the shaman was spamming purges on every kill attempt and he ended up running OOM because of that. We faced a similar team later on (rshaman+arms around 21xx mmr) and the shaman from this team knew exactly when to purge, what to shear and how to counter our cds/ccs.
Rdruid needed a buff and got it.
It was ridiculous how many good players just quit after Blizz totally trash canned the spec during s1.
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Rdruid didnât feel good to play for a low cr nobody like me. The idea is to get more people into PVP not make the barrier to entry higher. You want less sitting in lfg, then you want more healers.