I mean, Tyrande just talked words about said political faction. Sylvanas (and those who supported her in the Horde) decided to burn all the night elves in Teldrassil based on their political affiliation.
I don’t really see Tyrande’s words as worse. She is talking about the Horde after all, not orcs, trolls or blood elves individually. And has repeatedly been told by the story to be “consumed by vengeance” aka crazy
To add to this, we know Tyrande is still in conversation with those unaffiliated to the Horde, such as Earthen Ring orcs (or Cenarion Circle tauren I guess).
As a counter, she did lash at Calia for being undead, so I am confused.
If that was good enough for Richard the Lionhearted… (during the Crusades in the Holy Land, he thought it was jolly sport to seal Jews inside their temples and then set them on fire.) And yes this is the same Richard that Robin Hood pledges his loyalty to.
The very taxes that Robin Hood fights were the ones that were used to pay the insane ransom that the Holy Roman Emperor imposed on England to get Richard the Lionheart back.
Robin Hood in context is not all that bright, nor someone who you should hold up on that basis as some kind of moral authority figure.
Well, we’re about to find out depending on the devs taking the path to “purpose for the night elf souls” which might become a way to construct a monstrocity like “there is the prophecy of the True™ Maw Walker. To get us there Sylvanas was needed to lead us to the Shadowlands. And to do so the tree™ stuff needed to happen”.
Which will be one hell of a plot twist, because that would mean that the same devs who talk about “moral lessons” would concoct a “genocide might be actually good!” plotline.
If now the usual line of arguing agains the more radical (for one reason or the other) people could be “but genocide of the horde members is as bad if not worse”, this turn of the story will mutate the idea into “actually, in canon, that might be the path to the better future! Now take a look at this moral lesson! How moral this story is”.
So, yeah. It might take such an ugly turn, that it would be extra ironic with the whole touted moral highground stances of the most prominent narrative / dev team members.
I’m pretty sure the civilians sitting in Orgrimmar were not aware or even approved of Teldrassil to a large extent (assuming they were even aware of the extent of its impact).
But I disagree with Elataath’s definition regardless- while justice has moral qualms about who it inflicts damage upon, vengeance doesn’t care so long as it rewards equal -or worse-retribution and pain.
Some won’t be happy until they get that. The alliance being darker is fine, but I’m with you, I think the alliance comitting genocide would be way to out of character and off putting.
I feel that the justice conversation is branching out - but we do have to give some consideration to moral balancing. I would love to be completely justified in everything - but that doesn’t make for a very interesting factional conflict that both sides can partake in.
More like there is no target that is off the table. Orgrimmar is a military base responsible for staging a genocide of their own, its perfectly a valid target.
All the Horde generals are there, soldiers, champions, commanders, war machines and etc… its not exactly a defenseless village.