Developer Update: A Look at What’s Ahead for Wrath of the Lich King Classic

It doesn’t matter, even if I granted you that “spamming a macro” is how you find groups without DF, it’s still more interaction than is needed compared to getting DF to do it for you. That’s all that matters. That a non-zero level of effort is required.

Dungeon Finder = I press a button, get invited.

Spam a Macro = I press a button, get invited.

I fail to see the increased interaction in either scenario.

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That’s because you don’t want to see it because it doesn’t benefit your point.

Making a group manually is 100% a more involved process than letting the game do it for you. That is a fact. Period. No contest.

Zipzo already went through his thought process a while back in one of these threads, it really boiled down to some real moonguard RP stuff on his part, like peak basement dweller mode lol.

Well, I mean, if you can’t tell me the difference there, then there isn’t any difference.

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Not when you just want to smash a dungeon and don’t care who is in your group :slight_smile:

That’s the case with or without dungeon finder.

You whisper people, you discuss their roles or what they can do to fill the group needs. You ask if they wanna do this dungeon or that dungeon before they run the one they want, you work out what sort of classes would be better to fill the remaining roles, or whatever…

There’s a ton of variables that occur when manually forming a group. Just because you’re silent and engage with these systems like a robot doesn’t mean everyone does.

What you’re doing is generalizing your personal approach to what can be an interactive experience, and instead painting it to be “the same as DF” simply because you’re some kind of anti-social who approaches everything like a random DF group.

Sorry, but others approach the process differently than you, and additionally, Blizzard heard us, and is working to preserve that.

Quit or play something else if it bothers you that much.

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LOL BRUH no ones doing all that for wailing caverns, Ur funny af lmao!

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Nobody is telling you to.

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Exactly :slight_smile:

ima copy paste the above for copypasta to use when we get dungeon finder rofl

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“Tank LFG Ramparts” - Immediate Invite - No communication, interaction or whatever. We don’t need whispering in that case.

Who would want to run Underbog before running Mana Tombs? That’s just nonsense.

The internet has done that for us?

I’m not really generalizing because I can guarantee you that MANY people on this forum would agree.

No, that’s the world we live in today, kiddo.

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I don’t approach my groups that way.

Blizzard seems to think my way was the better way.

Too bad for you.

I know we’re in agreement. :wink:

Just think about the gatekeeping going on in TBCC. It’s going to be so much worse in Wrath, especially since Blizz has said they want to effectively add Mythic+, which means even more min/maxing.

You look at the LFG channel or this Retail tool…it’s just business. There’s no community forming aspect. People don’t care who they group with. It’s not a person. It’s just a spec and a gearscore.

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And Blizzard is a great example of intelligence, right…

If Blizzard were to agree with me on something, I’d be a little nervous that I’m growing too dense to function.

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Well they got this part right, so things are looking up :slight_smile:

Okay, random and off-topic but nice to know.

That’s a matter of opinion.

It’s not off-topic in the slightest.

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A lot of people might do that and that will hurt WotLK classic.
It had the most potential for growth but that’s out of the window now.
It caters to the old school Classic folks who already had several years with their desired game and drives away a lot of players who wanted to come back for this nostalgia trip.
But it doesn’t even stop there because some of the changes might even anger the old Classic fanbase, like keeping dungeons harder and taking an M+ approach similar to retail.

If WotLK fails in the long run and fails to keep a big playerbase, it will be over as quickly as Classic and TBC and I doubt anyone wants that. So it might also be in your best interest to not brag about how all those players should just go elsewhere.

That’s such a dumb take, really. WotLK is not even Classic, I don’t even know what people like you are thinking when you’re writing something like that.

But that’s the toxic mindset of modern WoW players I guess. “Haha, nananana, you don’t get to have fun, that’s great!”.

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Just like all games in their finished state are opinions of the development team on how it should be, this is no different.

How does exclaiming that something is an opinion do anything for you?

Yeah it is, you’re just waxing ad hominem about Blizzard’s “intelligence level”, being verbally abuse towards the devs because they don’t do what you want. It’s off-topic and inappropriate to be honest.