Developer Insight: Universal Upgrade System Improvements for Dragonflight Season 3

In addition to old PvP vendors, it would be great to have an eventual gold cost. Once the season, content is old. Or what if you consider that PvP has marks…Is there anything universal coming of a PVE nature? Marks of PVE?

Would be nice to offset the many outdated currencies

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Yup that along with the drops itself. This has been my favourite season so far since legion as I can raid log happily and not worry about mplus at all.

I was more asking where all your aspect crests came from because the mythic raid is a terrible source, especially early on.

They are determined to cause controversy when they can avoid it. Oh well tough on them when reality hits them in the face again.

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Yes and no. From LFR to fully crafted ilvl the gap is exactly the same as S2. From LFR to fully Myth the gap is 3 ilvl over current (and actually less on average because there is a few select 450 pieces in the current raid). Anything in between doesn’t really matter.

The new Hero upgrade level is still 3 below crafted (thankfully they fixed this last week) so that is irrelevant besides it making select Hero pieces better (something like mastery heavy rings/neck on an Aug).

From the raid and then when the mega dungoen came out that finished it off.

It needed to be pretty low efficiency to prevent some degenerate patterns from being optimal.

I love all these changes.

The crest upgrade ratio seems fine, too. It’s not intended to be a method to regularly farm lower content for higher-tier tokens, but just as a means of getting some value out of lesser crests if they’re the kind of player who doesn’t immediately run into M+18’s at the start of the patch (most players) and by the time they’re geared to be comfortable at that level have built up some extras that would otherwise go to waste. Alternately, gives players who want to stay at a lower level indefinitely a long-term stretch goal for the season.

All the rest is nice quality of life for a system I already enjoy, so bravo. The only thing left, as someone already mentioned, is that it would be nice to be able to hit a benchmark or earn an achievement somehow that let you trade your crests to other characters on your account (even if only lower-level or mid-level crests). I know Blizzard wants you to play the character that you’re progressing on, but it would be nice to be able to get some gear early on to bypass very early M+ levels.

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This is just the old valor systems with convoluted extra steps, a cartwheel, and a mandatory essay question at the end. Why can’t gear just be…gear? I mean it worked from Classic until MoP and then they tried to get fancy with +6 ilevel Thunderforged gear and it’s gone downhill since then.

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It CANNOT be the case that to understand this system you need to go to the website, forums or wowhead. You need to put a graph/explanation that’s accessible in-game and fully explains this system

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I hope they understand that I do mean what I say in feedback. It’s not a “oh he didn’t really mean that, it’s really this they’re upset about” kind of thing. I mean what I say and it’s not derivative of some other issue.

The system is:

  1. Get loot
  2. Go to loot upgrade guy
  3. Buy upgrades with tokens from the same content you got loot from
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I have to wonder will these changes make everyone happy from all content doers?

I always love these posts.

“What do you think of the changes to the gearing system?”

out comes the bullhorn

MORE SKIN ON LOVE BOAT!

“I see. Anyone else?”

The 6:1 upgrade ratio is too high. It should be dropped to 5:1 or even 4:1. Everything else is okay.

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Can we please get some insight on how upgrades to all of the season 2 gear will work once season 3 hits?

If old crests will become vendor trash, does that mean only Flightstones will be required to finish upgrading season 2 gear? (This will obviously still be necessary for those who haven’t fully upgraded every single season 2 piece on every single character while we all begin working on obtaining the new season 3 gear.)

Is the gear from Time Rifts, Dreamsurges and Fyrakk going to remain the same or will it be bumped up in season 3?

Please give some clarity. Thanks!

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I have about a gazillion drake’s crests and I could have def used them to upgrade to Wyrm before I finished my gear out. I basically only do M+, doing 20s now. 6-1 would help mostly because stats are so lopsided still that a huge upgrade with the wrong stats isnt an upgrade at all.

Sheesh. Just bring back Justice points. Have that, and valor be the so-called universal upgrade system. Get rid of all this crests, sigil egg, overflow, Fred flintstones :poop: etc. Or change the games name to currencycraft :crazy_face:

In 10.2 you’ll be using DREAMING crests to upgrade gear, so I dont see why you wouldnt be able to keep your SHADOWFLAME crests.

You’re welcome :3 Blues want to hide instead of doing their jobs, I’ll come to where they are. Simple as