*DETAILED CONCEPT* Ranged Survival / Ranger / Wilderness / Forester

[Velyzra-tichondrius]

After all of these years, it’s still astounding that Bepples can’t grasp the idiocy of telling people that their “opinions” are wrong.

Well one of these things is a fact, i.e. the color of the sky, while the other is opinion based on whether you like a spec in a video game or not.

Say this again for the ugly goblins in the back! Preach!

There are in fact a good number of people who like it. You aren’t a dev, therefore your opinion of something in the game being terrible or not is not actually a fact. Ergo, it’s silly to continually tell people they’re wrong based off of opinion.

Exactly. Thankfully the spec isn’t going anywhere. He can just continue to be mad, sad and bitter.

[Malwares-grobbulus]

You’re just as bad as Bepples and not at all helping to diffuse the situation. Why is it difficult to ignore people who are concerned with melee vs ranged? I’d prefer a thread bump to NOT be a troll.

[Velyzra-tichondrius]

Ranged Survival isn’t coming back. It’s really starting to get pretty sad how long you kids focus on something and obsess over it lol. Melee SV is amazing. Adapt or go to Classic.

Exactly.

someone like him has no place in this kind of thread.

Who?

I’d prefer a thread bump to NOT be a troll.

Rude.

[Malwares-grobbulus]

Added talent sections that affect Disengage and Chimera Shot.

(Tier 5) Questionable Engagement

• Quick Retreat – Grants you 80% increased movement speed for 5 sec after landing your Disengage.
• Narrow Escape – Reset the cooldown of Disengage when you take damage greater than 30% of your health. Can only occur once every 30 sec.
• Light on Your Feet – Reduce the cooldown of Disengage by 8 sec.

(Tier 6) Crouching Tiger, Hidden Chimera

• Double Strike – Chimera Shot shoots both arrows into your primary target.
• Sudden Strike – Reduces the cooldown of Chimera Shot by 3 sec each time it deals a critical strike.
• Nature and Frost – Chimera Shot deals Nature or Frost damage to all nearby enemies when it strikes a target.

[Prowner-zuljin]

Added version two of the talent section where ability-types (ST, Cleave, AoE) are grouped together, as opposed to version one where damage-types (fire, nature, physical) are grouped together.

Also, version one includes talents with PvP passives for certain abilities, whereas version two has NO PvP talents.

[Kolzak-emerald-dream]

Melee survival is garbage. Bring back ranged.

[Johnathan-illidan]

Melee Survival is amazing. Blizzard has stated 3 xpacs in a row they are not bringing back ranged. You have BM and you have MM. Get over it.

[Kolzak-emerald-dream]

You have 11 melee specs to choose from. Stay off our ranged poacher.

[Kolzak-emerald-dream]

Also you’re wrong. Sv melee has only been around since legion. That’s not 3 xpacs.

[Johnathan-illidan]

If you google blizzard posts about changing SV back to ranged you can find at least 42 occasions where a blizzard member has stated it’s staying melee. You have 11 ranged specs. Stop complaining.

[Malwares-grobbulus]

All this trolling keeping my thread up top. Keep em coming. The more attention my concept gets, the better.

Either that, or provide actual constructive critism for my concept and, you know, keep this conversation on track.

[Entrerri-proudmoore]

Devs don’t read these forums… you’d think people would learn after 15 years.

[Velyzra-tichondrius]

All this trolling keeping my thread up top. Keep em coming. The more attention my concept gets, the better.

Glad you’re seeing the positives, lol.

[Watermist-skywall (Watermist)]

Malwares, I was re-reading your OP again, with your additional posts and I got to thinking:

I dare you to re-work Chimaera Shot to act even more differently. Right now, your proposed version is still pretty close to the BM version.

Here’s the reason I decided to challenge you: the BM’s Chimaera Shot is reasonably different from MM’s Chimera Shot (MM’s version focused more on the interplay with active stings in the earlier expansions and continued to retain the healing aspect in the later expansions).

I’m just thinking that it would just be fun and help to maintain spec identify if SV’s version of Chimaera Shot is sufficiently different enough from BM’s version (and MM’s version) that the folks who pay close attention to that stuff could tell 'em apart.

If it’s too ridiculous, fair enough. It just came to me the other day, honestly!