Incinerate making it really dumb right now , but in DF there is literally nothing scary about a destro lock
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It can be really powerful and fun but what they did was actually make it a little harder to play imo. Iâve seen some destro locks absolutely pump shooting out 20 chaos bolts in 30 seconds to some aoe packs but itâs not as intuitive as perhaps destro players are used to.
Iâm trying to get the demo portal rotation down and it ainât easy trying to weave in so many different gcds, EEP! lol
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I agree
pls boof CB Ion kthxbbygurl
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I should have noted this is from a pvp perspective, chaos bolt hitting like a wet noodles is so strange, no dark soul to buff it, even if enemy just runs behind the pillar for the entirety of dark soul it gave us something to be afraid of. People just stand in my face and eat chaos bolt like itâs nothing lol
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frankly chaos bolt is one of those spells in the game they have to buff in pvp at least, it really does nothing in pvp, it used to be scary, like you said âpeople eat chaos bolt like itâs nothingâ now.
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I agree with some of the statements, especially concerning Chaos boltâŚI remember back in mists and Rated BGâs, boyyyyyy when you saw one of those flying at you, butts were clenchedâŚBut its not as impactful and i only press it because its a spender on single target boss fights. Otherwise yea its not as scary anymore.
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Itâs sadly for the fact that destro âcanâ pump out insane amount of bolts in a small window of time that they cannot buff it⌠too much of destroâs power is gated behind cooldown windows and suffers outside of them.
Iâd love to see some of that power shift from cooldowns back into baseline chaos bolt
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The bolts donât even do anything though lol, most of the time on beta it hits for the same or less as a conflagrate
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Yeah ok, This is why I love when players like you do this, Allows us Master destros to get further buffs, In the right hands, Destro is a monstrosity
Whatâs the requirements for master Destro?
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so glad you asked
cracks knuckles
Let me describe a day in the life of a master Destro:
Wake up
Take a dump
Brush my teeth
Then get out of bed
I put on some pleasant music in the background, usually my 76 hour emo playlist.
I sit in my DX racer gaming chair and stare at the black screen of my computer monitor until I feel adequately depressed and demotivated.
Then I turn on my computer and log into 4chan and browse /b/ until my brain feels properly smooth and overheated.
I get up, light a few candles, turn on the coffee maker, then sit in my car in my driveway for 30 mins.
Afterwards I go to the gym, hit my 1 rep max, and never rerack any of the weights (I have more important things to do with my time).
I come home feeling swole and juicy, go back to my chair, and start up WoW.
Once I log in, I AFK in the major city hub closest to me, then post on the forums about how awful destro is and how it needs buffs. If I have any energy left, I also tweet my complaints to Elon and Ion personally.
Eventually, my master destro skills are exhausted and I require rest. I grab my Gulâdan body pillow and go to the basement to sleep.
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Most relatable post ever.
Also, on a real note, the fact that incinerate and bolt will hit for the same or less than many instant melee abilities in DF is just unreal. I genuinely cannot fathom how blizz balances stuff at all lol.
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Iâve been singing that we need sweeping buffs for months now.
- Dimensional Rifts need four charges that are deterministic (set order of rifts â Shadow, Chaos, Chaotic, Flame).
- Increase the required shards for chaos bolt to FIVE and increase its damage by 600% and its cast time to 3 seconds (cannot be reduced by haste or backdraft).
- Make Soulfire always critically strike
- Rain of Fire requires five shards, its area of effect is increased by 50 yards, and it deals 500% increased damage.
Those changes would make our spec amazing.
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The below is from a PvP perspective and would (I think) largely fix Destro in PvP (at DF end game) or at least go a long way to help it out.
- Chaos Incarnate/Dimensional Rift node > Chaos Incarnate/Dark Soul node (Dark Soul would have the same behavior as previously implemented SL)
1a) This will allow PvE players to use Chaos Incarnate (where I assume it would shine) and PvP players to grab Dark Soul (where I know it would shine). - Merge Master Ritualist and Avatar of Destruction on the Master Ritualist talent: Ritual of Ruin requires 3/5 less Soul Shards spent and when Chaos Bolt or Rain of Fire consumes a charge of Ritual of Ruin, you have a 50/100% chance to summon a Blasphemy for 8sec. (the Blasphemy works as on live)
2a) The final talent where Avatar of Destruction is now would be Decimating Bolt with part of the legendary effect (to reign in some of the absurd damage as Burn to Ashes would still exist): Hurl bolts of decimating magic at your target, dealing [4 * (34.5% of Spell power)] Shadow damage, and increases the damage and critical strike chance of your next 3 Incinerates by 100%. Decimating Boltâs damage, and the bonus to Incinerate both increase as your targetâs health decreases. (in this suggestion there is no 50% bonus to the critical strike damage of Incinerate like there is from the Covenant Legendary on live) - Burn to Ashes impacts the next 3 casts of Incinerate, simply to align better with Decimating Bolt so that we donât end up with a really wonky rotation.
3a) It should be noted that I do not think Burn to Ashes is working correctly on live. From how I read it, one CB/RoF should provide a 30% (with two points in the talent) damage buff to the next 2 casts of Incinerate, stacking 4 times. This means that it should take 4 casts of CB/RoF to get a â4â stack which would then buff 2 casts of Incinerate by 120%. My testing shows that one CB/RoF procs 2 âstacksâ of this ability, it only scales up to 4 (as expected), but that the damage bonus is 60% max instead of 120% (again with two points in the node) for 4 casts of Incinerate. Very odd behavior.
Also, I didnât forget about Dimensional Rift. Imo, it should be added baseline to Destro as itâs not incredibly hard hitting/game breaking and is really fun. It could also be removed, honestly.
These are my suggestions to the tree and I think would really help us Destros out. As it stands now, I donât see Destro being viable in PvP at 70. So sad!
I also appreciate that with these changes, there would need to be a rework to Crashing Chaos. Honestly, that talent has made balancing Chaos Bolt silly as you can chain FAR TOO MANY of our CBs in a row considering it is supposed to hit like a truck (which lorewise and historically it always has). Removing it entirely or having it behave different in PvP would help Destro out immensely. Maybe have it reduce the Soul Shard cost and damage of Chaos Bolt to balance it out: this would still allow it to be fun in PvE but not ridiculous in PvP.
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I feel like it was a mistake to not include decimating bolt for destro as a capstone. Also really dislike how cataclysm is so off to the side.
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Cataclysm and Dimensional Rift (with flame rift) should be baseline.
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There is too much emphasis now on more chaos bolts and faster chaos bolts. This is why it hits for so little. Maybe if they increased the cost to 3 shards and removed Crashing Chaos then the damage of a single bolt could be greatly increased.
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I was watching some frost mage videos - ice lances were hitting for 48,000 â whatâs a Chaos Bolt hitting for?
I like it, realistically to be competitive we need dark soul on a shorter CD than it is in SL. Even free casting the damage we do in arena is not scary, even with a bunch of mayhem procs and chaos bolts flying all over the place, it just doesnât move anyoneâs health bars
i found it really interesting that blizzardâs first iteration of warlock talents had decimating bolt on the main warlock tree ( which was pretty cool tbh)âŚ
but then after a while they mentioned âafter listening to feedbacks on the forumsâ⌠they removed itâŚ
which is ludicrous cause i feel there werenât that many mentions or complaints of decimating bolt being there at allâŚ
really miss that spell now⌠but not to worry⌠we have an Eye now that deals 0.01% of our single target dps SMH
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