Surv needs aoe nerf to be aligned with other class.
I agree. Nerf dk’s.
Nerf what of DH? Eyebeam?
How is this guy on the WoW Community Council? Blizzard really needs to pick better players that actually know what is going on in the game.
What needs to be nerfed on dh? Really wanting to know this
Goodness, people. It was a joke in response to another joke…
Sure hope they nerf the setbonus hard. It ruined survivals rotation.
Say the bonus was +15% baseline and +40% with bombardier proc. Would it still result in the same state of things where the universe revolves around WFB and you have to sit on a charge in hopes of a proc?
Not sure about the exact numbers but single target i could definitely see those making the rotation revolve less around wfb.
The focus on redbomb/kc spam is my main complaint about the spec and there is a couple of rotational decisions that are just shy of beating the redbomb kc spam.
If the nerfs are big enough to make you for example cast raptor strike with 3 Tip of the spear stacks during redbomb, keep refreshing serpent sting during redbombs or kill shot having a higher prio than redbomb kc it would not only make the rotation less frustrating to play because you will not be in those situations where you press 5 killcommands in a row during a redbomb and get 0 procs, but you would also make wfb a lesser part of the rotation than it currently is due to the redbomb feedback loop, where you go from redbomb to redbomb not occurring as much.
Even then though you would still be holding bombs so you dont waste any potential bombs while you dont have an option to cast one. If they want to remove that they would have to somewhat rework it by for example letting you cast a bomb regardless of cool down if you have a proc.
I think for the current Survival what makes the most sense is having Mad Bombardier give you a Wildfire Bomb charge but make the damage bonus far more reasonable. +80% always came across as an early PTR placeholder value that made it to live; not saying that’s what they did, but that’s the level of absurdity for such a buff on that particular ability.
For reference in the PTR BM’s set bonus was bugged to buff Cobra Shot by +100% and that was fixed to the 40% value, and that’s a purely single-target ability not an uncapped AoE.
survival needs to be reverted to it glorious form of ranged. and if not, then deleted from the game. the charade is over now. its old.
It’s not that survival itself needs to be nerfed it’s just the current legendary that everyone is using (wildfire cluster) needs to be toned down or something 33% attk power may not seem like much, but for each bomb u get 3 clusters and those are AoE uncapped as well. that’s where most of survivals damage is coming from… Not the actually kit.
I’m curious to see what they are going to tackle though
It’s an ongoing joke.
That aside, I agree need DH.
Uh, no. Most of the damage is coming from the actual kit. Go look at an SV Hunter damage breakdown. Wildfire Bomb is always the lion’s share of the damage.
AoE wise cluster does make up most the damage but I guess we can see a nerf happening to the The Bombs or even just the tier set in general instead of it being 80% increase
so just to play devil’s advocate and back up Quayle here, he’s not wrong. In the picture you linked, you can see that over 25% of your damage (which indeed is the majority/lion’s share statistically speaking) is wildfire cluster and the aoe trigger of volatile bomb.
I know you tend to get a little happy and proud about defending SV which isn’t bad necessarily. But at least try to be nicer on the forums. Kindness and civility go a long way.
Thanks, like I’m not bashing survival hunter I’ve Mained it since Legion, I was just stating I’m guessing the nerfs are going to be to either the Tier set bonus or Cluster cause cluster also benefits from mad bomb procs
Wildfire Cluster there is a plurality, not a majority. And that’s only because Wildfire Bomb is split among 6 abilities due to Wildfire Infusion. In fact, bomb damage was over 50% of the breakdown v.s. just 14% for Cluster. The statement that Cluster is making up most of the damage is, in fact, false.
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