I cannot believe people actually have to complain about a spec for a developer to realize it’s busted. After hours of tournament play (not even Destros final form) we are left with no changes.
Check out any top ladder player’s stream to see how broken any spec you want to see is. Not much left to say here besides it’s not our job to do your job and tell you what’s wrong. Fix the broken stuff, this isn’t hard for you.
“When engaged in combat x does less damage” There, PvE is untouched.
Nerf focused chaos
Or nerf flashpoint in PvP
Make conflag root require an immolate on the tarhet already
Anything pls
How else would they know?
It’s not like they actually play.
There are even PVP talents they can target. Just nerf focused chaos lmao. It’s not hard XD
sad to see this being thrown around so much tbh
people are completely losing sight of what makes destro awful
nerf all bolts haste modifiers, big slow bolts are much better for the game than fast small ones
soul leech cut in half
voila, now destro is only aids to play, not to play against
No, bolt damage is too much. Period. Shuffle the damage around if you have to, but how hard bolt hits in a single hit is obnoxious. Getting hit for 50-60% of my life is dumb, and it’s hard to even justify from a 2 second cast at that point. It’s not like warlock passively does no damage outside of bolt either.
Have you tried playing with a dk or rogue vs locks and using spite trinket?
It might be scummy, but then again, it’s what locks deserve.
I agree it’s a bad change but it’s the only thing I really believe would happen
Something really should change though, destro has been oppressive for a long while.
An ideal world for me is making it so that good destros can still be competitive but all the other 10k destro mains stop forcing everyone to play like it’s game 7 blizzcon finals. That won’t happen so I’ll take anything
ive seen healthpools of 500-600k, so that means hitting 2 250-300k bolts back to back
my bolt outside procs hits for about 90k, could be a bit more now but not even close
my highest was 300k recently in a bg
setting up a cross cc on a team creating a 4-5 second window during which your procs are up to free cast should 100% end someone’s life if they dont trade a trinket or defensive for it
I think shadowlands will make destro a lot more bearable, the return of a ton of active defensive utility will probably make us a lot more punishable and most of the haste modifiers will be gone (flashpoint, corruptions etc)
this expac is a lost cause, it’s a giant mess and even if you fix destro there are tons of other toxic things that will gladly take its place
Bolt does 100-150 k too much dmg. That is one of the 10 things that makes Destro awful. If you don’t think Bolt damage is extremely broken over the top you are part of the problem but hey you are a lock so yes you are part of the problem.
Focus chaos can just be removed and Bolt will still be the hardest hitting ability in the game.
Then have Destro take 25% more dmg in PvP. Get rid of their root and stun. Then players can enjoy PvP again.
PS- Remove Gpie or add in the 15 sec CD now as that would do wonders.
but tanks hitting 200k+ TD’s is completely fine right? 
you consider anything doing more than 30k damage (to you) a threat and broken, it’s so nice to know that there’s literally not a soul in the world who takes you and your hyperbole serious
I miss when bfa was garbo and you werent posting tbh 
This^ this is way more constructive and refreshing to see. But I might add the core of destro isn’t so much a prob just like with other classes. It’s the borrowed power. Take one away then others from the other classes should go. Taper one then all should get tapered ect. But I fully agree with your stated direction.
Really nice deflection there defending Chaos bolt the most broken attack in the game. Why are you attempting to talk about something else when the focus of this thread is fixing broken Destro locks. Honestly defending Bolt is just gross and you know it.
It would be great to get Bolt down from 300-400k to 150-200k and not have Destro literally be able to stack any stat they want without penalty because of how broken their design is. Would be great is Chaos bolt is a 4 second cast that can’t be modified by haste if they plan to do 200k+ with it.
This can’t be said enough
These are good realistic changes
Personally I would like Destro to have to move again and not be able to sit in the middle of anywhere because of how tanky they are too. So having them take increased damage would be great. Or just remove the roots and stun they have so they don’t have access to the best control.
I like a destro that has fat big bolts but is squishy, punishable, and has to actually cast stuff for a longer duration for impactful damage. Conflag root is probably one of the most ridiculous things in the game right now only because of how much haste the spec can have access to while remaining one of the tankiest specs in the game.
chaos bolt damage should be based off the players IQ, currently would mean every warlock would bolt for 20-30 dmg but its a start, chaos bolt should have boomkins full moon treatment literally build up to a full moon with a 2+ second cast like you are about to one bang and it just hits for 30k
That’s still not insignificant damage considering it’s not hard to get shards. That’s actually still a lot of pressure. With procs it still is too hard hitting. Not every lock is Arcatraz hitting for 500k+, but outside of Ret, who do you know that’s hitting for 250k+ in a single hit?
I guess the problem is also with how oppressive lock damage is (too much) on top of their never ending CC that even a monkey smashing a keyboard could do.
Everything about lock is unpunishable and awful to fight into. CB damage is way too high, their CC is ridiculous, and they’re undying tanks who don’t have to worry about positioning for the most part since it’s hard as hell to punish them.
Make chaos bolts actually have a cast time again. I remember when I played destro back in cata it was like a 2.2 sec cast.
I find the like 8 stacked expedient warlocks to be the most annoying personally.
There is a destro floating around like 2kish mmr doing like 4-500k chaos bolts literally soloing healers. It’s likely not just one.
Basically you just want warlocks to be free kill… how about we nerf the 100k burst dps you do with reaping/spine eruption, every single unavoidable trap you “skillfully” land???