It’s past time to increase the deserter debuff. It should be a day. 15 minutes is no longer a deterrent.
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No it actually shouldn’t
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Yeah it should. Keep these bads out of our BGs. I have random groups where half the team will leave just because we don’t win our first push. There should be a harsher punishment.
I’m all for upping the deserter penalty and have been an advocate for that for some time but um, a day? C’mon man.
How about just making them account wide or better yet putting them in a backfill only queue where they have to backfill another game (and finish it) before they can get a fresh one?
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Nah.
15 min is a good sweet spot. It’s long enough where it wouldn’t be beneficial time-wise to leave a game early that looks like a loss. You’d wait longer for deserter than the game playing out before you que again. But it’s not so long that if someone’s internet dies or has something IRL come up that forces them to leave they aren’t stuck not being able to PvP for too long.
That’s what rated bgs are for bud. Random bgs are just that… random. Random teammates, random opponents, random number of healers, etc…
Also for the record bad players and leavers are not the same… sure theres some overlap but not even close to every bad player leaves early, and on the flip side not every leaver is bad. False equivalency there.
Yeah… longer deserter wouldn’t stop these kind of people. These folks either log to a different toon, do some PVE stuff or just rage quit the game entirely. No one is leaving a bg after one team-fight loss then sitting there for 15 min and quing again… they are dodging the deserter all together. So longer deserter won’t really effect this type of leaver.
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Now that’s not a bad idea.
I think the length is perfectly fine. I do think it is a tad bit too easy to dodge it though just by logging to a different toon.
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I feel ya on the rated BG’s. But if I’m trying to kill an hour before work, or on a lunch break playing WoW I can’t get a group together fast enough. Would be nice if they broke up BG’s further, by grouping you by ilvl or something. Really sucks coming into a BG and half your team is sitting at 90-100k HP.
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Gogo gadget deserter queue!
Naw 10 minute account wide.
Fine, I’ll just afk or troll my way through a crappy mismatched BG. Until Blizzard gets rid of premades in solo queue and unbalanced healers screw it, I will desert my rear off.
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It should escalate and be cross-character but a day by default? You’re out of your mind. It should also prevent you from queueing for other content such as dungeons or LFR.
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Account wide Deserter Debuff would not be a good idea
I have been playing and lost electricity due to a thunder storm.
I Don’t think that is fair to punish someone because of mother nature.
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Why do these people/threads keep popping up. I bet the ones who make them are mostly rather bad themselves.
One hour, account wide.
I advocate for both. Bail from a BG? You’re gonna be stuck backfilling games on all your characters, and the debuff won’t go away until you finish a game without leaving.
maybe they could put in the code that exception. Only the /afk’s get the debuff.
Ok, what I don’t get is… if folks are going to say you can never leave a BG without punishment, they will also have to accept an increase in people in BGs doing the least possible or doing things to lose the BG in order to get out.
And that would trigger in more aggressive vote kicking, with people without deserter backfilling the kicked slots. AFKers + leavers would get kicked either way and might even end up form their own quasi-bracket. The only way to not get stuck in that bracket is to actively participate.
Well, I’ve never been a huge fan of players policing games because:
- it takes time/attention away from playing the actual game
- it is open to abuse by pre-organized groups
I think 15-minute deserter is fine, and I hope that it is not changed.
TBH, the “concern” over AFKing is baffling to me. If people don’t want to stay, I want them to leave.
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Wanted to add, the smaller BGs are fast enough that why does it matter when people AFK? Whereas, I entirely understand when people AFK out of AV.
Well, opposite of what you probably where raised with, some of us where taught to not leave our post, not leave our team regardless. I know its in game role play, but in real life its the same. If you seen your buddy getting beat down would you say screw this, I am out?