I would take a massive 10% overall damage nerf than this garbage that they are doing with the spec. It’s not about how powerful it is, it’s about taking a rotation that is already pretty simple and emphasizing the most boring part of it. Like, yeah balancing and tuning is needed. But how is good game design to make the class intentionally less fun?
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So they saw everybody playing demonology rather than destruction due to all the instant casts demo got allowing them to compete on fights with lots of mechanics, and decided to nerf demo rather than fix destro and aff?
More shadowbolt casts, nerfing of dogs, the loss of the VotI 4pc bonus… all these make demo more like destro (an immobile turret that must constantly gamble with the gods of ping and swirlies to do good DPS), rather than improving destro and aff so that people actually take them.
I’m happy that they’re improving affliction (not by enough, but better than nothing), but messing with demo to make mechanics more punishing, rather than improving all three specs, is the wrong move.
Especially since demo already relies too heavily on cooldowns and cheesing Nether Portal with Soulburn to be much fun.
My thoughts on demonology:
- Lower the cooldown on nether portal to 1.5 minutes, but base the damage on Soul Shards generated rather than spent. Macro’ing Soulburn to my Nether Portal button feels degenerate as hell.
- Allow shadow bolt to be cast while moving
- Have the duration increase of the demonic tyrant apply to any demon that spawns while he is up, rather than having to finagle everything just right to avoid getting stuck with tank DPS.
My thoughts on destruction:
- Make Channel Demonfire castable while moving, though at only 70% movement speed. (Because CDF is a big ‘Please kick me’ sign, this shouldn’t affect PvP)
- Make Immolate instant cast. (It has no dispel protection, so this shouldn’t affect PvP much)
- Make spells accelerated by the Backdraft talent castable while moving (though at only 70% movement speed)
- Make Chaos Bolts accelerated by Ritual of Ruin castable while moving (though at only 70% movement speed)
My thoughts on Affliction:
- Each Drain Soul ticks should generate 2 soul shard fragments. As it is, there is essentially no way to actively generate shards on boss fights without adds, only passive RNG-dependent gains from Agony ticks etc.
- Drain Soul should be castable while moving, though at only 70% movement speed.
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Only thing i’d really want to see in the demo tree is something that lets you focus on a group of demons you want… Or sacrifice demons for a beefy one.
Like ideally i want to stack as many dogs as you can, rather than imps or anything else really.
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This is why I rerolled to paladin. The devs hate warlocks and have no idea what to do with the class.
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WTH Blizz. Demo is the only decent Warlock spec right now and you want to tear it up for what? Because of PI? Get a clue and remove PI from the game.
You want to turn a decent (and by no means op) spec into a shadow bolt spamming turret spec with no mobility. How is that fun?
What are you devs smoking? Do you even play the game?
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Yep, NOW you realize that Blizzard has it out for warlocks.
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Nobody asked for this and nobody wants it. You’re not adding depth, you’re ruining a spec. Why don’t you do a survey on how many of us want to cast shadow bolt, and go from there?
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I wish people would reference wtf they’re talking about so i dont have to google. Anyways, im assuming this OP is referring to upcoming patch change to demonology’s talents. I dont see anything really bad. Most of the 2pt talents were changed to 1pt which is good. The third dreadstalker talent is being removed which sucks but that talent was extremely OP with dread calling
Why not just merge shadowbolt with demonbolt?
how was it extremely OP. Nothing about demo is extremely OP.
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Because you are swimming in demonic core procs.
again, how is that “extremely” OP. Demo is nowhere to be seen as the top dog spec in myth +, raids or PvP.
So, explain, to me, very specifically, why swimming in dbolt procs is OP if its doesnt lead to us being OP.
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So you think that the current demo talents are fine and we have enough soulshards to spend as fast as we are generating them?
I think the answer is “Yes”? Given Demo Locks aren’t destroying charts?
They are fixing what’s not broken after all.
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False. It was slightly broken. If we had 10 soul shards instead of 5, then the generation would be fine but you cannot spend your demonic core procs fast enough currently.
Yup I do, so does the rest of the warlock community.
It feels dynamic.
Also from what I can gather you have no relevant experience in any content that goes beyond entry level. Sorry bub, but your opinion is kinda worthless.
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Your opinion is worthless. All you do is complain over nonsense. You think you represent every warlock player. Newsflash, you dont. Get off your high horse.
ok, let us know when you finish LFR for your pro advice.
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Worthless post.
Wait are they nerfing… or has it…
Dear Lord, I’m missing so much, i’m already dropping behind on IL…
I feel I’ll be lost with this toon when the IRL stuff is finished…