Delves being “too rewarding” is not a problem created by delve players

No joke there was a thread about that. It’s why i mention it.

Hey we didn’t say they were common. Just correcting those that say champion is the cap which it isn’t. And yeah, if it was warbound and/or more common, it’d be even more of a problem.

Not true. At all.

They’re trying to get you to state what you actually believe, rather than just whatever words you think get you closer to what you want.

100% true. What I wrote is precisely the attitude someone would have if they were motivated by the quality of their own experience instead of jealousy.

Isn’t that exactly what they’re doing?

So… roughly 130 - 260 delves? Sounds like you’re pretty much in line with the expected drop rate.

The only content I do anymore is Delves/Mog Runs. I can not be bothered to deal with toxic try hards anymore I’m too old for that. Being able to have decent gear and never step foot in a raid or M+ dungeon is awesome and I have never played more alts than now.

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As mentioned those aren’t even all T8s. A good half of them came in lower tier delves before the drop rate was fixed/changed. Which is something padding my bounty numbers in itself because I got in early on it. It’s simply not a reality that people are steadily gearing that way.

It’s what honest brokers would call a misrepresentation at best to say “T8s reward 610 hero at end of dungeon.”

I’d go so far as to call it a lie but it would be more accurate to say that heroic raid reward ilvl is 626.

No. I know this is going to be difficult for you to comprehend, because you don’t have any real beliefs or stances, but some people actually do, and don’t alter or misrepresent them wantonly as it suits them. The fact that you’re asking this is positively tragic, but no longer surprising.

Don’t feel bad about not getting it though. It took me a very long time to understand that spineless, faithless creatures like you exist in droves. I spent my whole life holding up good-faith interlocution as an inherent virtue. It’s not like I was unaware of lying, but it took me an insanely long time to understand that for so many people, like you, lying is the default mode of communication rather than some stress-induced deviation. To you people sentences are like a puzzle, which if successfully pieced together get you closer to what you want, rather than a means of communication and progression to a common understanding.

626 with delves alone would be an incredible grind but just getting a hero track piece in every slot is vastly more doable, especially if you count vault/renown rewards. I think it’s pretty accurate to say doing T8 delves provides a clear path to hero track gear without stepping foot in a raid or dungeon.

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This is a shift away from awarding hero track at end of delve so I’ll take it I suppose. Much more of an honest statement to say this.

Enough delve spam by end of season and many people will probably be 619 at least. I don’t see that as a problem and parity is found in things other than the item drops themselves. Such as the rate of improvement of said items, which is far and away superior in M+.

If you can farm +7s you can take your shots in +8s as well, at which point you’re putting delvers in the dust entirely when it comes to upgrading your hero gear to max and crafting great stuff to boot.

Are there people who think delves are too rewarding?
Can you show me 1 thread that isn’t your alt saying they want fewer rewards from delves?

Your opening statement kind of tells on you- nobody who identifies as a mythic plus enjoyer cares in the slightest about delves- delves are a you thing, and you think it’s a big deal because you think you’re a big deal. It’s not. You’re not. Nobody is thinking about delves in the ways that your type of people are.

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Blizz inflates rewards on new content to plump numbers, then they nerf them, after they have your money.

it was always planned this way, Lucy pulls the football away one more time.

Queue Ion cackling.

:rofl:

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I’m fairly confident saying the reason forums aren’t flooded by m+ players raging against delves is that delves aren’t able to get myth track items. Only check at how many raiders complain about m+ for the same reason.

Also, at equal reward, delves is by far the easiest and it’s not even comparable.

The problem here is M+ 1-6 is too painful at the moment for new players. Too many failed groups. They can spend one hour a week doing delves to guarantee a hero track gear. But for M+ they will have to endure hours of failed attempts before they can reach a chance at getting hero gear.

If they want to make it harder to get hero track gear then that’s fine but it won’t save M+ 's lower keys from the mess it is.

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…if you have a bountiful map, then you might cap out your delve progress if you run 10 to 20 delves per day every day for the whole season and rng is on your side.

LOL you people are so worried about your e-peen it is hilarious. :rofl:

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You don’t hero gear at the end of delves you get champion gear.

You get hero gear in the vault for doing enough delves.

So you admit you stopped running them week one. And even now- even though running it would be trivial- you still don’t run it.

Druid

“Probably”

Also, if your timing was right you were exploiting a bug and didn’t even know it. And ranged classes have a massive advantage over melee classes for Zekvir. Video has the guy rarely eating more than a single auto-attack at a time before Zekvir starts casting another spell.

M+ gutted raids.

Although I do believe we should just scrub M+ from the game and accept it was a failure of an idea, I don’t actually preach that point. Even if the game would objectively improve without the M+ communities horrible toxicity where they insist on intruding into other game pillars and having them nerfed into the ground to satisfy their own ego.

M+ participation is way down. People were only running the content because it was easy and was showering them in gear. When you made M+ mythic raid hard people stopped running it. Similarly people run Delves and think they’re easy because they’re mentally blocking out waiting for the raid’s saddle bags to actually do mechanics right.

Also, your achievements are public. You completed all these achievements when scaling was broken and Brann was overpowered. You abused an exploit.

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Betcha if you took one person grinding delves to hit 626 and one person who just spent that time on a part-time job delivering pizzas then buying heroic raid carries the pizza guy would hit 626 months before the delver.

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