Delves Are Spotlighting Class Imbalance!

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I managed to do Tier 8 Skittering as a ilvl 590 Disc Priest today, 1st try. Very happy i finished it but, i had to mind control a Shade and use him throughout the delve which made it very tedious. The lack of real damage from Brann, made this delve take about an hour. Just a monumental slog. I also atempted this as Shadow and i couldnt live past the first couple pulls. I died so fast it was shocking. Shadow has darn near zero survivability and the self sustain is near non-existant. Shields as Shadow are so weak they are near pointless.

Disc, for obvious reasons, took a while, but at no time did i feel i was in danger of not being able to finish the delve, even with my damage being so much lower than Shadow.

My Frost DK, chewed this delve up and spit it out like it was nothing. The damage, the kicks, the silences, the defensives, the self heals…this class has it all.

So why, why is there such a huge gap in ability to do this content between these two dps specs? Why? Why is it okay for Shadow to be in such a gimp state when attempting your new flagship content Blizz?

How is this okay? Why is there this massive of a difference in experience from one dps spec to another?

Do you not want this new content to be a POSITIVE experience for all players, regardless of class and spec?

Ill say it again, cause i have first hand experience with both melee and caster:

Delves are putting a spot light on a very real issue with this game, class imbalance. Some classes and specs are just having an easier time with this new content because of how they are designed. These same advantages carry over into other forms of content as well. I literally have no silences or interutps as Disc. None outside an AoE fear. No silences, no kicks, no interupts.

Now look at Monk, Druid and Shaman … they have WAY more in their healing kit than Disc does. WHY?

What possible, reasonable explaination could you have for that? There is none.

Same thing with some casters vs practically ALL melee in Delves. Why such a huge difference in enjoyment and experience…once again, its design.

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I have played disc on my main since 2009. I briefly switched her to shadow in Pandaria, but went back to disc. Is it slower than shadow because of less dps? Absolutely. But the survivability difference makes up for it, in my opinion. I occasionally have people asking me why I am running as disc when they see me killing stuff in open world. I answer “Because I can live through things shadow cannot.”

Now if only we could get an interrupt in delves :slight_smile: Up to tier 9 soloing, could probably do a 10 but as you said it’s a slog. Last night’s tier 9 took me 47 minutes (no deaths)

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I hear ya. Dont get me wrong, i dont expect a healing class to blast through content like a dps spec, but why is my kit compared to Druids, Monks and Shaman, so lacking?

Why is Shadow so pathetically weak to the point that in order for me to do this NEW CONTENT, I feel complelled to do it on a freaking healing spec? My DK doesnt have such a compulsion. I never once thought, “man i better go Blood.” Yet that is the state of Priests right now.

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Once my gear got better (what a concept), shadow didnt suck as much. I can +8’s solo but that involves using ALL cds. Its not a w key experience that melee are doing.

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Yeah tier 8 Skittering ilvl 590 Shadow. I couldnt do it. I was getting destroyed in seconds. Disc feels so much slower but so much more capable. No need to even comment on DK. I dont want DK nerfed, hell i play one and love it, i just want everyones experience to be good in this new, advertised content.

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These last few days blizz has been playing with the difficulty and it really showed how weak we are. I did all 4 bountiful ones today and they seemed better. We didnt get any changes all alpha beta and nothing coming in 11.0.5 so were hurting.

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Did you forget Rogues exist?

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Oh yeah, crap i know i sound negative. I DO appreciate the changes. I do, they are good, BUT, it is in my mind pointing a glaring finger at a bigger issue than Brann.

And:

Yes my little bro, i forgot. I know you guys are having issues as well. My bad.

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Pretty sure rogues also didn’t get any meaningful changes in alpha beta.

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We got nerfed, actually.

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Yeah, sounds about right. Mages and pallies are on their 15th rework since DF and shaman arent far behind. Limited resources ya know.

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That’s okay. Blizzard made the monumental decision to make Slice and Dice passive… again. Brave strides over there in Irving, brave strides.

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Now that i think about it, cant remember the last time a rogue threatened me in pvp or world. That class has always been one where youre kept on toes as a priest. Now i just alt f4 if its a fury or dk.

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Delves are easy as Sin, I dunno about Outlaw and Sub.

Sin is DoT based, so you can just run around with everything dotted up, poisoned, slowed, Poison Knife slows them and Shiv does as well and Sin gets AOE Shiv.

Sprint on bosses, they can’t even touch you, dot them up. Wait for Kingsbane to come off CD. Saps, blinds, it’s a fantastic kit in Delves.

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My main is a augment evoker and i defiantly lack damage i can see this because it takes me a while to kill adds unlike my hunter and druid etc. I get that that the augment evoker is a support class but the lack of damage is annoying sometimes even though the augment evoker still counts as a damage class.

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I 100% would be going Dev if I played Aug for Delves. I heard Dev can melt stuff.

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I cant speak to Dev but i dont see them complaining. Just an observation.

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I want whoever made that blizz add of delves taking as long as brewing coffee to be fired and blacklisted from every video game company.

Delves take longer then dungeons man so much for quick content.

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I’m only level 74 maybe it will get better once i reach 80 but i have been busy and i have not had time to level up much

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I bet you a tier 1 only takes as long as it does to brew coffee. /sarcasm

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