Delvers won't likely get past Hero track gear

Do some of you seriously not understand a lot of us that do delves have no interest in raiding and M+ and that’s why it’s great having an alternative to them?

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On that, I certainly agree. Delves of 8 and below are most definitely tuned on the easier side on purpose, whereas those above that are just… not, at all. A lot of things go on in tier 11 delves that can only be described as blatantly stupid, such as Brann randomly taunting a boss and dragging it underwater.

You know what you aren’t doing underwater? Dodging its mechanics. You know what you are doing as soon as Brann goes down, assuming you aren’t a tank or healer? Getting erased by that thing’s next couple autos.

Delves = Caps at Champion and hero from vault

Visions = Caps at Hero and Myth from vault

Done.

Yeah no.

For the billionth time, delves are not meant to prop up M+ and raiding.

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As much as I hated visions, I could get behind that. That way people get to keep their delves “untainted,” and we of the tryhard clan have Visions to solo gear in if we really want to.

Imagine saying somethig ridiculous as this in an mmo forum ‘this part of the game is one not yours, you’re not allowed to talk about it’

So you have no actual argument here, nor basis of logic. Got it.

I already answered this. It’s an end game pillar for world content players and we get the gear we need for OUR end game pillar.

Nope. Go back to your M+ and raiding. I don’t come into those threads and whine and demand the content be changed. Stay out of mine.

No. It should be the same as Delves. There’s no reason for this and makes zero sense.

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Then be happy with what you get from them. They’re too easy to give higher rewards.

Which is more than most people did anyway.

Yeah - basically gear with special effects on them. But, in wow, many of them outperform their designated ilvl. For example a stat stick weapon compared to the same ilvl weapon but with a damage effect.

Yeah sadly delves seem like they will become a you think you do but you don’t scenario.

I didn’t raid til soloed 75 T8 and up delves, I didn’t do M+ til after 100 solo delves at 8 and up. You assume you know too much about other players here lmfao

  1. It is not your place to tell me what I should be happy with
  2. I really don’t care what you think is too easy for the rewards they give, they’re here to stay, get over it
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Why should the gear from visions be worse if visions, by not being delves, have the option to include aspects of difficulty for solo players that would make it comparable to myth track content from other pillars?

That’s what I truly do not get. I get you not wanting to do hard content for harder gear, but why should that option not exist from soloable content at all?

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Also if the problem is people not doing lower level m+ then that is where they need to solve the problem. I mean it sounds like people who go from delves then move to m+ don’t actually enjoy m+ and are just doing it for the gear. So maybe address the fact that m+ isn’t actually enjoyable for a lot of people.

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You realize Visions won’t be any harder than delves, right? Or if they are, they won’t remain that way for long. You’re now arguing against getting good gear out of solo, accessible content. Considering how hard you’ve been arguing against delves being tampered with, why suddenly argue in favor of Visions being pointless?

idk i’m 619 in every slot. I’ve quit since reaching this.

The alternative is there, you don’t deserve gaurunteed full Hero or Mythic track gear through easy content like that in less time it takes people to get fully geared in actually difficult content that also takes organizational time and effort. No. Just no.

Eh, there’s a lot of things visions can do with that delves can’t. Either because visions have those things, or because delves have been promised to explicitly not have those things.

It’s like people forget visions literally did offer mythic ilvl gear when tey were last in the game.

Yet you and others like you constantly smack others down for talking about what M+ should be when they don’t run M+.

The irony is astounding.

Stay in your lane. This content isn’t meant for you. It’s meant for the casuals and solo players and family style small groups. This is our challenge.

We are, genius.

And that’s your content. It’s not mine. I only run Delves. And the difficulty is fine for most of us— as are the rewards.

Same, not worse. Visions are just Delves with another name.

We have options for difficulty. How do you people not comprehend this???

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