guess what i bought it for 200k
no raiding needed
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Delves should give a couple more crests for sure, slightly highe Delve Bounty drops to give a bit more access to Hero, but they as they are as a challenge now, they shouldn’t not have Myth track gear available. Just no. They’re too easy, even with a time limit, too easy for Mythic gear.
Im fine with them Nerfing Group Delves but leave Solo alone. Its a Nice Gear track for more solo minded players.
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yet the original person got it from mythic raid so yes its the proper place for it to drop.
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my monk got a hero 626 6/6 warp blade from the weekly event with the heroic or mythic dungeons x4
thats still hero track but its 3 ilvls above the lowest myth track items
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Or maybe make it 12s, and only Vault not chest rewards, and make 12s the same as 11 plus a timer to beat, or even add a timer and a soloable affix. This would be more fair than Myth gear in bountiful chests as rewards just for completion.
I didn’t even know you can buy Mythic gear in the AH
Ever since classic wow.
I see.
Shows how much I know about the AH 
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This isn’t something new? It’s fine now and has been fine.
Why are you trolling for replies? Were the other high post count threads not enough for you? Have to start more arguments with the M+ers?
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Says someone starting yet another spammy delves gear thread.
| Delve Tier Level | Bountiful Delve Rewards | Initial Upgrade Level | Great Vault | Initial Upgrade Level | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 561 | Explorer 2/8 | 584 | Veteran 1/8 | |
| 2 | 564 | Explorer 3/8 | 584 | Veteran 1/8 | |
| 3 | 571 | Adventurer 1/8 | 587 | Veteran 2/8 | |
| 4 | 577 | Adventurer 3/8 | 597 | Champion 1/8 | |
| 5 | 584 | Veteran 1/8 | 600 | Champion 2/8 | |
| 6 | 590 | Veteran 3/8 | 606 | Champion 4/8 | |
| 7 | 597 | Champion 1/8 | 610 | Hero 1/6 | |
| 8 | 603 | Champion 3/8 | 616 | Hero 3/6 | |
| 9 | 603 | Champion 3/8 | 616 | Hero 3/6 | |
| 10 | 603 | Champion 3/8 | 616 | Hero 3/6 | |
| 11 | 603 | Champion 3/8 | 616 | Hero 3/6 |
I think you meant Champion Gear, which is fine. I don’t do M+, so 610 is high enough for Heroics. However, if the Delve itself still requires 623 suggested gear, sounds like Blizz is going to Nerf gear requirements to get into delves, which means we are right back where we started LOL 
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Delves don’t really have the space to offer comparable challenge to award ilvl higher than what they do now without becoming something delves weren’t really meant to be.
Visions on the other hand, which are getting a revamp, do. And it’s likely we’ll see visions be a source of mythic ilvl gear for solo players once more, as they were in BFA.
Seems like bliz want to iterate on solo content by creating a clear delineation between the more casual friendly experience delves provide and Visions with a bit more challenge and expectation of progression behind it.
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Brann takes all your mythic gear, since he’s doing most of the work.
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Nah.
Hero is good for Delves I think, maybe have it leveled further but we don’t need that gear for Delves.
If they bump up the difficulty and we have a 12’s and over with affixes and whatnot then sure, but as is Delves are too easy for Myth track and Ion is already fixing to turn the place upside down trying to balance gear acquisition.
Great Vault gives Hero track, as the table says.
OP said:
So yes, we can get Hero track.
… how? Visions weren’t that difficult. They sucked, but they weren’t difficult. Especially in groups. Delves are a mix of scenarios and Torghast with Visions sprinkled in there, too. It’s no different.
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As someone who is only doing delves right now, why is this a bad thing?
I don’t care if myth gear is high m+ and raiding only.
Unless they start tuning delves to the point myth gear feels necessary, it’s not necessary. Hero gear is perfectly fine “endgame” for delvers.
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Would much rather see the enemies get way stronger than have a timer put on it.
To put it simply, I’d like to see high delves become something akin to what WoW used to be. By that I mean where you’re forced to carefully plan out your pulls, up to and including being forced to CC specific mobs in order to survive. None of doing what we do now where we set it to tier 11, pull the entire room, and /laugh while spamming AoEs as Brann just heals us through the damage.
It would be a nice contrast, no? M+ is your gogogogogo content, mythic raids are your big group thing, and high delves are your solo but horrifyingly overtuned thing.
I’m talking full on Shadow of the Erdtree levels of BS. Encounters designed with fairness secondary to making the player absolutely misreable.
Visions were pretty tough at the beginning before the cloak was stacked up too much. But regardless of the difficulty of the old visions, it’s more that simply they aren’t delves.
One of the greatest pieces of tech for solo play visions ever used, and I’m surprised didn’t end up being part of delves was the insanity resource. Not necessary the gradual ticking whilst inside, but the idea that avoidable damage was dealt to an external resource bar not your own HP was great for solo content as it was role / spec toolkit agnostic.
If delves are going to remain content any spec can do, and with no enrages, no dps checks, no performance checks of any kind really besides simply survival, then they can’t really go past what they are now.
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I mean, they were difficult for me.
But I like to believe about 95% of that was the fact I was still playing at 1 FPS at the time.
I hated visions though, I hate that they’re bringing them back. It also suggests that N’zoth is still alive, cause last I checked, the horrific visions are his thing.