And that’s the casuals fault, how exactly? It really isn’t.
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Then go read the thread demanding gear to be nerfed from delves.
This is my response.
It’s not the casual’s fault but any time casuals have anything worthwhile to pursue the sweats cry about being “forced” to pursue it as well.
Then you have the casuals that cry about other people progressing faster than they are, which we also see examples of in this thread.
People are upset that others have torn through delves faster than they have and so they would like Blizz to effectively gate those people so they can artificially feel like they are “keeping up” with those better/more efficient/more determined players.
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i dont know what your problem is? gear rewards or group content?
you know you can run delves with a group. you just need to stop whining now.
passes kleenex
It’s hilarious when someone says “You can farm nonstop heroic drops from delves” because what they are actually saying is “I have no freakin’ clue how delves work and should stay out of the conversation.”
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and its not even that. delves on give 603 if you have a key, with the 616 coming to the vault. so its a double whine on their part.
imo the fact of the matter is that they just dont want players to be able to run solo content and get this 603 champion gear, with the 1 option for 616 vault slot.
or better yet, they cant solo a t8 delve and i dont think anyone is selling runs for it either lol. i dunno 
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getting closer to the point were more and more ppl will already have champion track or better gear in every slot. delves are about to fall back to the “good for alts only” category.
*i’ll be doing them for vault filling purposes for a bit longer though.
I mean i did 10 T8s this week and i got 2 cloaks, boots, and 7 trinkets … dont tell me its RNG cuz its not
This was always inevitable. People were ALWAYS going to use a solo gearing method as a supplement to their other goals and content aspirations. So while some may find themselves disappointed by delves eventually being useless for them, most people anticipated obsoleting them eventually and will simply move on to other pillars.
I feel like this is what drives the casuals that are asking for delves to be better gated in order to force them to be “season long” content for everyone.
They aren’t progressing very fast through delves, it’s going to take them all season to get to where other people already are, so they’d like those people forced to wait in line to access higher delves because it will keep them in line with their own progress for a longer period of time.
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i gave up on raiding/mythic+ after 20 years of it, i can’t stand the people or the stress no more so devles are perfect for me. now that same culture is asking for devle nerfs b/c they can’t stand to see soloers get anything even remotely nice. ya, w/e, it’s not like obtaining normal raid ilvl loot is going to make us gods or anything.
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I love delves! It’s what I’ve wanted for a long time. The time pressure of M+ has always been a deal breaker for me. So I’m just here to say I really like it even if the launch was a bit wonky.
Loot level seems fine. I really like that I’m solo and able to meaningfully progress my gear. It feels good but I still have challenges to over come.
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That’s not my issue. You chose that, so it’s still on you ultimately. Nobody is forcing you to do things you don’t want to do for a small increase in power, you are making that call. That’s like people who 100 percent games complaining about a specific achievement they have to do. It’s a completely self made issue, whether you like it or not. Wanting other people’s end game progression dampened because you are making yourself do something is nonsense.
By that logic, they need to nerf the Mythic+ rewards. There are many raiders who don’t want to have to do it, so we need to make sure they don’t feel forced right?
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yea idky people keep saying crap like this is to easy so it should be nerfed. just take advantage of it being easy and move on with your life. i like how because its easier i can screw around so much more and just go oops i pulled way to much guess ill pop a cooldown rather than die. delves are filler for the community that pushes. unless it effects me idc what people are doing though.
biggest issue is the duplicate loot, i am on my 7th repeat trinket… really starting to piss me off.
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I really loot gave us an option of from maybe three things. This would at least help
Imo, M0s are just scaled to be extremely hard in comparison to the loot quality they drop. Like M0s are really not worth the stress of doing anymore. Leave delves alone, maybe even add another lvl or 2 of loot to tiers 9 and 10 but for the most part delves are fine. M0s however need some SERIOUS tuning to be worth farming for gear. This will be the first xpac that I dont even enter a single M+ key purely because of the pain in the rear most of these M0s runs have been.
OK so I have to apologize to the Bliz devs and the forum folks.
I was coaxed in to a couple 3 man delves by my friends and this time I actually got some green 450 armor rewards in the treasure room chests.
I vended them for repair money , but at least it felt like I earned something.
This works ok for me.
Too bad delves are incredibly boring
lmao they were going into relatively high keys completely clueless long before delves existed, now they just have slightly better gear to be clueless in.
but if your numbers are anywhere close to my numbers then my numbers are less numbered now… thanks alot obama.
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