Oh now you gone and went sour grapes.
Eh, it’s no sweat off my back. It’s just disappointing is all. Your claims of infinite Mythic+ loot, while technically true, were disingenuous from the beginning.
You’ve been here the last four hours repeating that you want delve rewards nerfed acting as if you’re looking out for casuals best interests. That’s truly disingenuous.
At no point have I said I’m looking out for anyone, I also haven’t said I wanted the rewards nerfed. Delves should absolutely drop champion track loot.
You want them to make delves harder while keeping the same loot. That’s nerfing loot. Also you said you think I’d enjoy getting higher challenge way earlier in the thread. No, No I wouldn’t. Tier 8 is super challenging. Sorry you can’t accept that because you’re so good at the game everyone else should be.
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Yeah, no. What you are asking is for them to screw over people like me in order to make you feel like you don’t have to do something you don’t want to do. News flash, you don’t actually have to do delves to gear up. Nothing is being forced on you.
Delves are the end of my progression, which means 616 is as high as I will ever go. In a month or two, your gear will far outshine mine. So no, they shouldn’t lower my progression just to make you feel better about thinking you are required to do something you aren’t actually required to do.
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maybe you got it in your vault. i got heroic tier chest and heroic tier legs, but i got mine from heroic anub’ar palace? so heroic anub’ar palace is hard? and i got my heroic shoulders from catalyst.
clearing 8x +8 delves which only drops 603 IF you have a keyx4 per week and only being able to choose 1x 616 heroic item from the vault is perfect the way it is.
players like myself will never step foot into a delve outside of week 2-3 for the simple fact that we will be 615-620+ ilvl within that time frame.
so to the people that will use delves as their main souce of gearing, i say leave it alone. having them be able to attain 4x 603 champion pieces and 1x heroic piece per week is perfectly fine.
lets face it, the vast majority of delve only content players will struggle in that +8 anyway. as for the rest of us, we will be full m+10 mythic geared.
my wife hates raiding and hates m+ but she actually loves the fact that with some decent rng she will be fully heroic ilvl geared over the course of the next 4-5 months. and that is good for her.
what is it to you? go and do your +10’s and mythic raid.
oh wait…
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Buddy, it’s only a “chore” for the first week or 2 lol. If the 1% possibility of a randomized piece of heroic gear is not outscaled after 2 CDs of the raid and M+ is open, then you aren’t a real raider. You are a laughable Heroics Andy, and there ARE no chores for you.
Gearing needs to be slowed down across the board. It should take months like it used to to the point you quit in frustration only to come back and be fed gear by the guild because they need you to tank in the new raid.
The true WoW experience.
It is forced on you becoz you would be left behind when you dont do it.
You need to be competitive if you want to get Raid slots. You need to be competitive to be chosen on Dungeon Finder premades for Raid or M+. If you dont have Delves high ilevel loots, you would never be chosen to join the group.
You dont feel the pressure becoz you are not competitive. Some calls non-competitive as lazy. We dont care about what you do with your personal gaming. All we care is what happened to us becoz of this mandatory thing… or we suffer not to be invited on M+ and Raid we want to play.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA that’s rich buddy. Another tough guy with KSM and AoTC as their goal complaining about being competitive and being forced to do chores. Newsflash, buddy, if you aren’t getting KSM on the 1st week of M+ and raiding for CE, then you HAVE no chores. If you do, it’s because your casual guild doesn’t know its place, and you need to find new friends.
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I’m not going to laugh. I’m going to be ticked off.
And I think it all could have been solved had they not allowed for such rampant key acquisition and found a better cadence for the season.
But this might end up getting evened out next season when we go in with no keys and no early access to low tiers.
Yep.
Better cadence does not equate to more difficult.
They need smoothed out, balanced a bit more for classes and small groups. But what they needed was thought put into them about how to not devour them in a day.
That’s all.
It really isn’t, though.
But it also doesn’t need to be insane. That’s what the next three tiers are for after that. But they’re only there for bragging rights. Which is also fine.
But I think if they tossed in a couple few more mid-tiers, found a better way to do keys (maybe an account wide system that works a bit like key acquisition for M+ so people can go up and down) and actually put thought into “hey, we need to treat this as season long,” we might not see some of the problems we’ve seen.
No, it doesn’t need to change in difficulty. No, the gear doesn’t need changed. They just needed to use more than two brain cells and a day to create our content. That’s all.
I gotta disagree. I have a hard time surviving even with Brann’s pots.
I’m slowly getting the gear to even do it though with some semblance of not dying.
Hunters have it easy.
Funnily enough, it isn’t the m+ tryhards crying about delve loots lol. As someone who was 3k IO the last time I played in DF S1, I think delve loots aren’t good enough. It’s mostly the delulu heroics crowd who never realized how casual they are in here raging about delves.
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This has always been my mindset. I understand feeling compelled to take every advantage, but still.
If i just want to STRICTLY raid, thats what id do. Unless youre one of the 2000 folks in HoF levels, you have 6 months to gear and tackle the content.
Nothing worse than downing content in 6 weeks then making “nothing to do” threads for the next 18
Yeah,and it would be worse. Running out of things to do. What would we do for the rest of the Season’s week when we have beaten difficult content so early becoz of high ilevel freebies from Delves?
What we dont want is WoW to become a faceroll. Faceroll = garbage. In the past, WoW is never a faceroll. And it’s becoming easier and easier. When it becomes a faceroll, nobody would want to play Raid and M+.
Different people and classes will be able to do it differently. Hell, it took me all of the entire time the original MT was up to finally complete the healer challenge on a Resto Druid. All the way to the very last day. From the very beginning. Every day. I still have PTSD. LOL
But like I said:
I’m not advocating for more difficult or less rewards. You know that. This is what I’m saying:
And while this season is already borked… next season may be better for all of this, because we won’t have early access and we won’t have tiers unlocked and we won’t have keys.
At least… I hope to god that’s how it’ll go… because if not… I just give up. lol
it is hilarious. this is why it is nothing more than trolling at this point. because if they were really that good they would already be in m+10 filling out their vault slots with mythic track items, and not here on the forums complaining that people are able to attain CHAMPION track gear LOLOL x4 per week, with a single heroic vault slot choice once per week.
i think the real problem is that they cant and never will clear a +10 for mythic track vault slots and in fact they cant clear a +8 delve.
so they can keep on crying LOLOL. 
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and i think when .05 or .07 rolls around, champion gear will be given away for free through the weekly boxes… that’s how it was last expansion.
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Since there are some that will never do mythics, i’m glad there is something for the people who don’t run that content to have a chance at decent gear.
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