Yeah, you’re hopeless lmfao.
Whenever non raiders asked for more sources of higher level gear, the raiders on the forums whined because you don’t need it.
But whenever raiders don’t need higher level gear from other sources, but feel compelled to get it, they demand it gets removed.
And it’s not the first time it happened either. Remember when raiders complained they can’t get the pvp weapons week 1?
The entitlement of raiders is insane. Here’s a new flash, y’all don’t need that gear. Go do your raids and quit complaining about other people having fun.
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right back at ya friendo
“Hopeless” in this context refers to “an inability to understand what other individuals are saying and to respond accordingly.”
This is often demonstrated by straw-man arguments, which you’ve employed in full here.
All the best!
In a month, when you’ve way outpaced the people getting 1 pc of 616 a week, we won’t be having this conversation. This is a short term concern…however for the rest of us we’ll still appreciate the chance at an upgrade on gear we’ll never level beyond 4/8 or getting a tank weapon when we have to do LFR or normal as dps.
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You’ve already said this twice
Just leave already lol.
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Two weeks of preseason key farming combined with the first week having joke tuning in groups certainly contributed to the idea suggested that delves are loot pinata content.
Letting keys be farmable ahead of the opening seems like a mistake, just as removing lower M+ keys and shifting everything up 10 levels was a mistake, and boosting heroic up week two while leaving normal the same and creating a gap between the two difficulties was a mistake.
Y’all really gotta get out of your heads that this constitutes an actual argument.
what i dont get is that this same “crowd” that is saying delve loot is far to rewarding for this difficulty is that they have no clue what they are talking about.
they are saying that a delve +8 gives 616 ilvl when in fact it only drops 603 ilvl and you can only attain 4 hard keys per week. then as a comparison a m+5 drops 603. and i would say that a delve +8 is right on par with a m+5. both easy and same difficulty. very close to the same.
they are just whiners. people just need to ignore them and hopefully blizzard does the same.
its funny though because they are basically telling the world that they suck, and that a m+5 key is “hard”. they dont see it that way though. but we do.
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I like that thought too. Also like tying some achievements or items to reward “all DPS” teams in delves.
Overall Delves are my jam, I think it’s the best content added for players like me in a long time.
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Your opinion does not make it objective. Not sure you know how that word works. Like Titan said, It’s easy for raiders and mythic people because they are good at the game. Not everyone is. It’s also not easy for every class, again making it not “objectively” easier.
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It’s my favorite content since Legion.(class halls)
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I wonder how I’m wearing my heroic tier legs
oh you got heroic tier legs too?
four of my alts got them from the vault!
isnt that awesome?
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People shouldn’t have been able to get through 8s day one. Therein lies the issue.
This needed treated more akin to M+ for solo or small groups and it wasn’t. They failed to put enough thought process towards it.
Key acquisition was handled wrong, release of tiers was handled wrong, they didn’t test the balance and screwed that all up… it’s a mess. This is like an alpha version and instead of fixing it, they’ll probably just drop it.
It’s awesome if you’re capable of reading for context and understanding how an argument works, yes
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Sorry I can’t read right now I’m about to open a tier 8 bountiful for 603 gear. Hopefully not a repeat cloak again…
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I’m on this (your) side of the fence but it’s not exactly about being “good”…example, for me it’s about is the juice worth the squeeze? Is the drama of a dungeon worth my time? Most people are in guilds and have mates to jam with, I prefer the lone wolf approach, then nobody is dependant on me…I can log in when I want and log out when I want. I dont need to progress for 6 hr’s on a raid boss and pretend thats fun. I’m pretty sure that if most of us “wanted” to run M+ we could…we’re chosing not to.
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I’m well aware. I’ve been here more than long enough
All the best! 
That’s how I feel about it as well. Casual players aren’t the ones storming tier 8’s day one. That’s all the min/max crowd