I play both and they are vastly different, so if he is expecting one to act like another he is in for permanent disappointment.
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No itās not bad. I am not insulting you for when you started. It just explains that you didnāt experience the game really prior to Mythic+ existing. What you think M+ created or fosters has been present for 17 years, you just werenāt here to see it.
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ah you play both. like me. but atm there is nothing in 14 to do. so im here
I am mostly just logging in to finish leveling my last job to 80 before I push the rest to 90 (just healers at 90 right now) and work on the newest beast tribe.
This 100% ā¦
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i have yet to start that tribe. i hope its good i liked the fairy one. the pig mount was awesome to obtain.
Yeah pretty much.
Why I made note of OP playing FF14, as he is acting like this is something new.
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I like it, and it has a hippo carrying a cart mount that amuses me. 
Yeah the different data centers are like an entirely different game. I mean people are still (in general) more friendly overall, but the data center I am on is the raiding data center so this kind of thing doesnāt really happen.
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I believe it. Just like realms on wow. Donāt go to moonguard expecting normalcy lmao. But anyway, yeah, I think OP needs to take suggestions made, rather than clutching his pearls over one random āDHā he claims did something.
Yeah there is a whole data center that is kinda Moonguard. 
There used to be just one officially unofficial RP server but there are too many freaky deaks and they expanded, lol
Oh jesusā¦ lol.
Itās actually pretty chillā¦ .I move a character there sometimes just to hang outā¦ but there are definitely places like Goldshire where you probably will learn some things you never wanted to learnā¦
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Ok, I agree it didnāt start with M+. But how can you argue M+ doesnāt encourage the fast paced mentality we are experiencing currently?
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By actually doing the content and knowing if people pulled in M+ the way they do in N/H you would die. Repeatedly.
As someone who played on Stormrage, Iām not sure I want to know, I already seen some weird stuff in the shire lmao.
Hahah yeah. I went once just to seeā¦ but I noped right back outta there pretty quick.
Game design has pushed the fast paced mentalityā¦ If you go and play TBC classic youāll see how much slower the game was, the amount of rapid button pressing you have to do in SL contributes to the speed people play.
Watching invitationals there doesnāt appear to have a lot of down timeā¦
Looking at the video makes me think what we have here is a basic deference in expectations.
Thereās a narcissist viewpoint that everyone in the game is there to provide them with the experience they want.
And then thereās a group responsibility viewpoint where you have a responsibility to the group to be prepared. Basically, show up to class on time and ready with paper and pencil.
And when it comes to challenging content you need a group of the latter.
And it just might be that routinely showing up to class late without paper and pencil and then demanding the rest of the class carry them, thatās what is truly toxic behavior.
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