too many players flock to only playing hunters and warriors and its skewing the playerbase because of 2s. Two decades of only 2 classes being viable in an entire bracket and the easiest bracket to get practice games in it’s no wonder the game is filled with nothing but warrior and hunter mains.
So just delete the bracket so maybe these guys will try other classes for once in their life
Now why would we do that?
nice nice your 3rd bad take topic of the day. Keep em coming.
how is it a bad take if it’s true go look at 2s leaderboards (for the past decade of seasons) and look at overall player population
we have too many hunter and warrior players
Why does a spec doing well in a bracket mean the bracket should be removed?
because we have solo shuffle now and we are supposed to balance the game around 3s but warriors are 50% representation above 2400 there as well and like clockwork if you say anything about warriors or hunters the entire forums rush in to discredit you
BECAUSE TOO MANY PEOPLE MAIN WARRIOR AND HUNTER
or in your case you rush in to defend them because ret only plays with warrior and hunter
you might be on to something here.
Once again, why does a spec being good in a bracket mean the bracket should be deleted? All you gave me was your biased views on hunters and warriors.
The funny thing is your not even talking about the truly most dominant spec in 2’s for the past 7 or so expansions Resto Druid.
The same thing applies to healers. Too many players start learning priest or rdruid because of 2s and it heavily bleeds into the rest of the game for player populations and it skews the feedback and ladder statistics. If they are gutting/nerfing classes based on solo shuffle ladder statistics then why aren’t they gutting warriors and hunters because of 2s? People rush in to yell “REPRESENTATION DOES NOT EQUAL POWER” when it’s suites them but turn around and use the same evidence elsewhere for other specs.
Either balance it which means changing warriors and hunters, or delete it.
And more importantly we have to decide once and for all are we balancing because of awc, 3s, or solo shuffle? Because if it’s 3s then warriors need to be nerfed for players above 2400. Or is it not 2400 now? We are balancing specifically for duelist level players in 3s? Every warrior and hunter sympathizer does the same mental gymnastics to come to their own delusional conclusion. You are intellectually dishonest and you know it.
So if 2’s is causing such a massive increase in things like hunters, why are there only 4 in the top 100 in 3’s? It’s a super popular spec, and you say it’s also super op right? So why only 4?
Even for warrior there are only 8 characters 3 of which are alts so only 5 players in the top 100 playing warrior also. Which is strange right? It’s so op correct? Why aren’t there more?
The big reason more people play things like warrior and hunter is because they are more fun for most people to play. Not because they are op in 2’s.
You don’t need to balance a for fun bracket like 2’s. If there are people playing it and enjoying it that’s all the reason you need for it’s existence.
Personally I’m biased and would say 3’s/ awc.
But can you give me a reason why these 2 specs need to be nerfed? As I mentioned above only 5 warrior players and 4 hunters players are in the top 100.
What is the reason exactly and why does that mean they should delete 2’s?
I don’t have a problem with hunters right now. I’m talking about when BM is viable it’s so toxic it’s unreal. I would prefer marks became the spec blizzard put priority on but otherwise I don’t mind survival hunters being good in 2s or 3s. The problem is there’s too many anti-caster specialty specs so marks being yet another anti-caster spec is dumb as hell. They should be a anti melee cleave spec. Cov is just an idiot and is trying to defend warriors because he hates warlocks even though he literally has a 30 second cooldown button to drop all dots.
I don’t care how many alts warriors have on the first page, if you are going to use statistics and data to nerf warlocks then you need to nerf warriors too. Warrior isn’t the only class clogging up the leaderboard with their alts to practice on. They still have to go take rating from someone else to get their warrior there. They are still taking up a larger piece of the pie at the top. Doesn’t matter if 1 guys has 3 warriors.
Yes, let’s isolate the number of rated brackets, reducing the concentration meta specs even further
2+2=5
I disagree with this a ton. One person being able to get 10 of one spec to the top 100 does not make the spec op, it makes that player good. For example a lot of the time when ret is terribly you’ll see vanguards having 2-3 rets in the top 100. Does this mean ret is good? No Vanguards is just insanely good at the game. Counting alts as more players in those ratings is disingenuous. As of right now there are 5 players in the top 100 for warrior, that means only 5 individuals are playing the spec at that level. Does this mean the spec is bad or op? No, because discussing balance purely off of representation does nothing. There’s a lot more than goes into game balance. Sure representation could be a potential indicator that it may need to be looked into. But maybe the spec is just more fun and thats why more people play it. There have be numerous examples of a spec being insane potentially the best in the game, but it also having low representation just because not too many people enjoy it.
All of this is under the assumption of the live game and not the massive nerfs to everyone except warriors, rets, hunters, and dh tuesday. Otherwise you would be correct.
Massive nerfs? Sp is getting buffed, rogue and boomy got another slap on the wrist. The only one that has any real potential is the lock nerf and we’ll see if that even matters since they still have infinite tools to not die.
Yeah whatever bruh. You’ll see soon. I know you just can’t comprehend it as a ret war main. I’ll see you in 10.1.5 when I’m playing ua and dk takes your spot.
If you don’t like 2s why not just not play it?
2v2 is creating a mental health crisis among wow pvpers by forcing new players into only learning warrior and hunter, thereby turning the community into frothing mouth breathers that demand the most simplified and toxic style of wow pvp to perpetuate in all forms of pvp.
I haven’t played ret war since s2 of SL.
Warriors aren’t even a problem. Hunters and rdruids are.