Definitive, Undisputed, Unbiased Class/Spec Tier List

Except this is just factually wrong:
Above 2.4 there are 74 enh shamans. They are almost always under represented even when they are good. It is like saying Rets are bad because they are not 10% of the ladder like arms warrior.

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I think in the next patch when venthyr arcane gets a big buff (mirrors gives clear casting instead of mana) we will start to see some pop up.

Kyrian arcane had potential in beta too with radiant spark >touch of magi > AP +PoM arcane blast spam.

what are you talking about

there’s 1 more than 6 of us at 3k which is like 600 points higher than gladiator

so there’s probably like a hundred over 2400 (gladiator)

enhance is INSANE right now like hands down the best it’s ever been probably

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I think Havoc is a little stronger than C. I know they aren’t played much because the class is stupid and simple, but their damage load is enormous. They’re kind of a sleeper.

Frost Dk is also underrated. If they actually tone down ww and ret like they should you’re going to see TSG make a big comeback.

Also by those definitions, Feral isn’t B tier as it’s only real option is to run Jungle, which involves a C tier class :wink: If you don’t know any amazing priest/hunters as a feral you’re kind of screwed.

I will always categorically disagree with dks calling themselves B tier.

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I’m not really a DK player anymore I haven’t played DK seriously since WOD s1, it’s just who I post on. I still don’t think frost is an A tier spec on equal footing of ele/sub/shadow.

Also, by using your own definitions I think Ret would belong in the A tier.

Not saying that Ret isn’t S tier, but saying your definitions aren’t great. Ret is a great spec right now but ret is never the “main event” of a comp but is rather there to add extreme amounts of support with occasional one-trick burst.

Because it isn’t in equal footing with ele/sub/shadow. Those are definitely S tiers while DK isn’t.

DK is a solid A tier. Anyone who wants to act like Ele (arguable) Sub Spriest aren’t S tier, however, are unrealistic and probably blaming all their losses on evil melee meta

I’m pretty sure bfa season 1 enhance was the strongest it has ever been, everyone was playing double enhance for a while. It got nerfed quick though and turned into dumpster I think?

hard to say

in bfa s1 enhance was INSANE so insane that jaime played enhance/frost mage to 85% damp in one of the awc cups

i think the game was a little slower at that point making that more impactful
the healing now is even better but the game is faster so the healing while grossly overtuned appears much less damp than it did in bfa s1

losing static cling but gaining doomwinds is a trade i’d make any day

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Ya I quit bfa after 2 weeks and never resubbed but I remember enhance being so broken snutz was playing double enhance for weeks. I just watched a lot of streamers while I played other games since AFF was never playable during bfa rofl

It was barely on life support for like half of s1 with drainlife Azerite trait sometimes one shotting people.

This is actually SUPER accurate and super fair.

I think the only things that aren’t entirely accurate are arcane mage, assassination rogue and destro warlock could all be higher than they are; they’re just overshadowed by more “meta” specs at higher representation.

Sounds just like AFF right now, on life support hoping enemy players go afk or dispel ua and it critting since you need to play for eternity before AFF can kill something

So this site is inaccurate?

h ttps://thelootdistrict.com/pvphub/representation/class/?rating=2400

Actually, there’s 170 according to that site I linked. No idea where I got 6 from.

You were looking at 2s. 3s is 170 enh above 2.4

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how is fury c tier and not after f tier ?

lmao we saw like 2 dks in awc and played only with warriors and monks not even close to WW or Warrior kingdom

ok
you are not in awc tho

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