Defending is too easy in Wintergrasp and needs to be nerfed, extremely hard

Attacking in wintergrasp is 80% of the time a loss, unless you get that one miracle team who is hyper agressive and wins. Usually never happens though.

Defending is just too easy to win in wintergrasp and is extremely unfair and unbalanced. Sunken and eastpark are close to the base, and destroying towers reduces the attacking time by far too much. I would be happy if defending teams had no rockets, and had to play out the entire match. Defending is too easy to win and is an automatic loss when attacking

Whenever I get attacking i /afk out every time without question. Move on to an alt.

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Keep the defense from destroying the towers then? Hard to get a PUG to do anything, but if the towers are as important as you say (they absolutely are, good call), then treat them as important no matter which side you’re on.

Have won 100% of WGs as attackers when the defenders fail to take out the southern towers. I understand your frustration, but as horde I find half the attacker groups I get know what’s up and definitely shouldn’t be quit on.

If you have enough alts, you can just avoid this annoying bg altogether :wink: :+1:

Or at least, that’s what I usually do :laughing:

If WG pops, just afk out and switch to an alt and simply re-queue, rinse repeat

/afk out of Wintergrasp regardless. Terrible bg

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Yeah I’ll even afk out of WINNING Wintergrasp games :roll_eyes:

I simply don’t enjoy the bg, there’s just not enough PvP for my tastes :thinking:

…but Southshore vs Tarren Mill on the other hand, you pretty much “overdose” on PvP in there. Non-stop PvP from start to finish, I love it :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

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I will have to agree with op, I think I have seen the attacking team win once out of 20 WG played since it became an epic bg.

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They did come out and say offense/defense wins are fairly even.

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They also said “we think AV is in a pretty decent spot” and “Alliance wins the majority of Alterac Valley games” :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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They do have the data that we don’t. There’s far more instances going on than we can keep track of.

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Your right they did say

That does not reflect at all what I’ve experienced first hand though.
In the games I’ve played there always seems to be a clear advantage for the defending team.

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They feel about the same to me. Only offense games I’ve lost I can point out the reasons why we lost. On offense games you just can’t tunnel vision.

I do feel that 5-10 minute “avoid each other” phase at the start needs looking at though.

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I’ve been in several losing matches on the defensive side. In almost every case, attackers zerg sunken ring and then just start cranking out vehicles

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Okay but doesn’t mean it’s auto win. I’ve won on offense before, pretty quick too.

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Yeah no crap. I got the Achieve for winning WG in under 10 minutes in this ebg version, and witnessed others get it many times since. You can’t get that achievement as defense since “victory” is playing out the clock.

And for people that say there’s not enough PVP in WG, if I sort my reflex by HK’s Wintergrasp occupies the majority of the top page. It’s only beaten by the rare AV Turtle/resource games, but those are very rare these days. IoC is the clear “dud” for “PVP” as it’s consistently low HK’s.

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My favorite thing about WG is when I’m giving the Alliance the business here comes 3-4 Cata-putzes that flamebroil me down in like 2 seconds.

Pallies are my favorite thing to sizzle.

Oh I understand, me being Ret does NOT help, especially after I have made it unpleasant as I possibly can for them or their team. I would have done the same.

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Cats allow all of us to be ret for a short time. High burst, extra health bar, wheels, the whole nine

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I thought you were talking about Feral at first when you said Cats lol and I about choked on my drink in laughter

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Every offense win ive had in there was when alliance cuts off horde from doing their circle around the southern WSs and wipes them while they are enroute. After that a few roam on defense and the alliance has the ranks and vehicles by then to just plow through.