I’m clearly saying that the suggestions made by people who don’t play the game and have no clue whatsoever are actually going to make the class worse.
If you don’t play endgame content what are you even talking about reworking the class? If you wish to feel the same you should play the game instead of playing the forum.
What content do you do?
Mythic+?
PvP?
Mythic Raiding?
Because the likes of you keep creating multiple threads about the same topic since people keep telling you that you’re suggesting nonsensical changes along with the fact that you don’t play any content at all.
This character has not been played much in Dragonflight because I can not get around to playing it in PvP. It feels awful personally as Frost is my go to spec. I have played at 2400+ throughout Dragonflight on other characters. While not on my DK, I play against them often and understand it quite well.
While this is a valid take, I personally disagree with it. You don’t know their history with the game and what led them to this point. Maybe they would play more content if their class was in a state that they enjoyed playing it.
Hmmm must have been different forums folks were crying about them on release and for months afterward.
No, it wasn’t different forums.
Thanks for letting us know it’s only fun when your OP though (i know i’m shocked that folks find being OP fun), at least we know what you are going for.
The talents at the top of the class tree should be base line. A talent that makes dark suc work for group play
Talents that should be baseline
Chians, death strike, raise dead, mind freeze, ams, control undead, ibf, and veteran should all be baseline. While on
the frost tree
Frost strike, oblit, hb, km, rime, pof, horn of winter should be baseline as well.
Revert horn back to when it was like battle shout.
Icy touch replaces death coil when selecting frost spec
Dk talent acclimation boosts your resistance to a spell school by x then hit for 30 sec
Talent presences with corrisboning talent improved presences. Boost to your presence and extra goodie and also when outside your presence you keep your base presence an 25% of the improved presence.
Toughness
Bladed armor
Talent that gives armor to vet
Frost talent black ice path leaves behind ice patches that when mob pass over slip and fall. also it takes moderate damage to break pathj
Must be hard to admit you were wrong for whatever reason, no one was crying Monks were OP at the start of mist, if anything just about everyone was claiming they were underpowered which is why hardly anyone played them at the start (and they had a very deep learning curve).
Something being OP does not mean it’s fun, DKs were not broken throughout all of Wotlk-MoP and if you think so you have no idea how to read data to see that DK’s were powerful yes but far from always OP (if anything arms warriors, ferals, and mages/warlocks at this time were stronger going by data). I think fury warrior is currently one of the most fun and enjoyable specs in the game currently, is it OP? Far from it, it’s just a very fun spec to play.
Why would i admit i was wrong? Because YOU say so…LOL, no. Looking at old threads, that shows me what folks were thinking. Not you just say things and that’s how it was. I’m ok with your obstinance though and i’m ok with bumping your thread that is 5 days old with very little engagement because that’s the kind of nice guy i am.
45 posts from 4 people out of 148 posts, you need all the help you can get. Not too many folks agree with you, wonder if you can admit you are wrong? Keep at it though, maybe this thread is going places. Good luck.
Even though this is a six month necro I agree. DK’s used to be fearsome butt kicking machines of death while blasting death metal in your ears doing it.
Now they’re watered down overly designed esports nonsense I think.
I mean a freaking plate wearing, pet handling, disease spreading tank… yes please!
In fact, an important part of DK in WotLK was your role, in which spec you preferred to tank or DPS.
In the case of DK DPS we had the 3 DPS Spec regardless of which of the 3 had the best top dps, and that gave an important detail in the class.
Now everything is specific and worse when the 3 main stats of int, str and Agi are no longer included in each class, which means that the rework is not only for the DK’s.
