Biceps new video about our 9.2 rotation shows what I really want from 2h frost.
When was there dw dk in wc3? Nerzul never dw as the litchking? I don’t remember seeing dw dk in wc2.
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I even have wc3 and have never seen a dw dk. I’m talking about the original wc3 not reforge which if they are in reforge is a retcon so is a current change and not an original design.
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is THIS wc3 or wow?
hmm?
HMMM??!!
added to correct you, yet again- you’re*
Im talking about the original too. WC3.
Its the warcraft universe. You cant have WoW without Warcraft.
no it’s not. separate games. quit trying to change the subject by turning to lore now. just admit you was wrong and move on.
You are off your rocker.
I need your help with another source I found. Can I send you the link?
bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/15973487596-rip-dk-dual-wield
Looks like they achieved what they wanted to. DW and 2h is viable for the DK, Frost is the dual wield tree, and had unholy/blood as 2-hand focused.
I dont think we needed a blue post to say what should have been apparent.
Its also crazy of how a bad build could absolutely tank your dps. Who knows if the OP of that thread was good at building specs. You find many people posting builds back then that people could absolutely pick apart and show how it was a horrible build.
Some DW builds had you going down to unbreakable armor, some had you just getting Howling Blast and then moving to Unholy.
3.2 they finalized their vision of “making the Frost tree the dual-wield tree, so some frost specific abilities would hit with both weapons through that tree only, and then have unholy/blood as 2-hand focused.”
2h and DW are viable for class as a whole. This stuff was apparent with the talent changes and how the specs worked back then.
and you were wrong. we all knew it. it’s cool though. =]
Yeah, im being told im wrong by someone that this isnt the warcraft universe. You wouldnt have WoW without the Warcraft games. Thats where the story began. You wouldnt have arthas, you wouldnt have the Dk hero class, which its origins are from the hero unit from WC.
You telling me im wrong is just laughable after that statement.
Separate games, same universe so its all relevant. Just like Arthas all throughout those games and even into wow is rooted in Unholy.
Again, you wouldnt have WoW without Warcraft. No Thrall, no Arthas, no Illidan, none of the important characters people love.
But even in 2009 Blizzard was saying FROST WAS DW. That the class should have both options be viable, not the specs because even back then they knew there were challenges to making them both be viable per spec. So what did they do? They made the specs have a focus. DW was for Frost and Unholy/Blood was for 2h.
You are making your own headcanon when attributing Arthas to frost because “blue must mean Frost”. Its people like that that ruin the lore of the class and spec. Just like how the current writing team has ruined Arthas and all the lore from the past to prop up their character because they seemingly hate what the originals created.
No, im not wrong. In what others have presented, it has supported what I have been saying since BFA.
again, i’ll stop you right here because this whole debate isn’t about the “wow/wc universe”… it’s about dks when introduced into wow. bottom line. that’s it.
No, the WC universe is absolutely relevant. And when it was introduced, uhhh, lets see, Frost had Nerves of Cold Steel which was a DW talent. If that doesnt tell you that Frost was intended to be DW then there is no reason to have a conversation with you.
no it is not. this debate was about dks being introduced into wow as a 2H welding hero class. anything you try to say that has no relevance to only wow and the start of wotlk is you trying to BS your way out of not admitting you was wrong.
deal with it.
It was released with both. So no, it wasnt released as a 2h wielding hero class, which you are implying “only a 2h wielding hero class”.
No. I wasnt wrong. And Frost was the DW spec. Blizzard has admitted it time and time again.
nope. according to your own words, you’re wrong:
No, im not. Your reading comprehension is just bad. Its really bad. You are just trying to hard to get this “gotcha” moment and its not even there. You are pushing into actual trolling territories here.
Tell me, how is saying having the ability to do something, doesnt mean that it was the best an issue here? Frost was focused on DW. Blizzard said it in Wrath according to a bluepost, reaffirmed in Cata through an interview and again when 2h was removed. You and your group wants to say im delusional but hoooooly cow.
Well I mean… 2H frost was pretty damn viable in 3.0 and prior to when Threat of Thassarian completely destroyed any 2H advocist’s hopes and dreams.
There was a time 2H frost was good back then, only slightly trailing behind the DW frost+unholy build. It hasn’t always been a sole DW spec.
Half true, it evolved into “the DW spec” for ease of balance.
And there were so many DKs out there that played DW from 3.2 onwards because it was just plain better, not because they genuinely liked to DW. Even back then in the days of ICC & H ICC people wanted 2H frost to be the play, especially those chasing shadowmourne…
People like 2H frost, and they always have & always will. This is a silly circle to keep going in
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