OK… Seriously, we can all agree some mistakes where made. Mostly yours, but no need to point fingers. But its clear, that no one bothered to sim any of these ring combos out.
There is ONLY one combination currently for my BM Hunter that even comes close to it being on par with a crafted ring at same item level. All other combinations seen it being more then 2k DPS lower. And I am not sure that combination was intentional. If you want more detail, go to WoW Head. They just posted it a few hours ago.
Now Ion stated that they wanted these rings to be a DPS increase over regular rings of same item level for ALL classes/specs. Well, they are not. Some see some minor combinations that are a little better. Tho some classes sim with them being a flat out DPS loss. Now, for those reading and wanting to sim. Use the Nightly Build for raidbots. Its the most updated.
So not going to rant anymore. Was really hoping for a great catch up ring for my BM Hunter. But still even with best cobination, its 450dps loss over a crafted ring at same item level. Such a shame.
Well, I tested on training dummy and what I was getting on it using the sim panned out exactly correct. So the tool tips may show off, the values in the system are correct. The guys/gals over at raid bots put in most of the info before patch launch, but had to go back yesterday and update to the numbers that went live. They just havent got around to getting all the tooltips worked out. They will get to it.
From looking at Wowhead, the 424 ring with BiS stones is about equivalent to a 372 crafted ring for devastation evoker. Basically, it’s garbage and not worth equipping under any circumstance.
However, I understand that for some classes the ring may actually be a sizeable upgrade.
Ion said IF they are not where they wanted them to be they WOULD buff them. They have not said they ARE going to buff them yet. That said, I am going to hold onto my ring in hope its becomes better or I get something better from vault.
Just keep it as is so I don’t have to do this crap 6 times now. Or you can buff it only have to make me do it once. And my alts. get the thing as well. win/win!
So Fyi I’m not sure how long it will last but there is a new gem combo out that’s making the ring worth about 30% dps upgrade using prophetic twilight/delirious blood/ and either Humming or Storming stone.
I mean, sure, if you want to be literal about it, no, they’re not buffed yet. They did say they intend on doing so to make the ring valuable to everyone, so logically that would mean if the rings are underperforming they’re going to buff them, yes? Hence my statement.
I feel your pain, I got the ring and put in the WoW Head recommended stones from yesterdays article this afternoon… What a waist… Only to pluck them all back out and replace them again a few hours later…
I have learned from experience with the WoW Devs, unless they say they are going to do something. Expect them to do nothing…
I do hope they do update them sooner then later. There is only 8 more weeks until 10.1.0 if they keep at same patch cadence. Which Ion said they dont want them to carry over into 10.1 and they would nerf them if that becomes the case.
Yes that is the combo. Few on the Hunter Discord pointed everyone to the combo prior to WoWHead making the post.
The only combo that is working for my BM hunter is the HummingArcane/ProphTwilight/DesiriousBlood combo. And that is just on single target. All other combos fail by 2k DPS or more…
Honestly, the problem is many classes are such stat dependent. They should have just slapped 200 Vers/Has/Mas and Crit all on the ring, plus the sockets and it would have worked out well for everyone…
And its pretty much know its double dipping so will probably get hotfixed. Also the ring is definitely junk at 424 with bis gems for fury warrior. Simmed every scenario. I put my 415 ring back on.
Yep, that was the possible unintended proc I was talking about earlier. I dont think they meant for that to happen. Yet, that is also the only viable combo for some classes and its still below a crafted ring of same item level. I am using the HummingArcane/ProphTwilight/DesirousBlood stones in mine (on my BM Hunter). 418 vs 418 item level, it is still 450 DPS below a crafted ring on Single Target, more then 1500DPS below on AoE cleave for Council fight.
They seriously just need to add 200 of each Has/Vers/Mas/Crit stats to the ring by level 424 and it will become an excellent and fun ring.
Yeh I believe it. Most of my sims where for mythic plus setups which the gems are basically undertuned as stated on WoWhead. No matter what, the ring at 424 vs my 415 simmed up to 1.5k less dps single and 2.5k aoe. I didnt test the gem setup you mention as its more for raid boss, and yeh might get hotfixed. I mean its 9 ilvls higher than my ring with fancy new affixes, you would think it would be fun and pumping some deeps…