If you are raiding H/M or running M+, you really have no reason to have the ring other then to say “Hey, I got the ring”. It is pretty useless at that level.
Why people are so worried about it when they can easily craft better is amusing.
It’s a catch up for filthy casuals like me 
I think if they (Ion) had simply said that, instead of saying the intent was for it to be an upgrade for everyone, something that everyone would want to chase, and talking about it being replaced by high end raiders in season 2, there would be a lot less complaining.
Don’t get me wrong, there’d still be complaints, lol. But not this volume.
For BM hunter with 418 CoS ring & 418 crafted ring with blue silken lining…
Running the ‘BiS’ combo of Primordial stones for BM in Mythic + is -1.8 to -2.8% dps loss depending which ring I change for AoE sim… and -0.7 to -1.1% dps loss in single target.
Very strange that the ring is not even relevant now… I know you plan for us to replace it with mythic abberus rings as per blue post, but it’s not even viable right now lol…
Edit: I put the 500 speed gem in it and saved it for my old raid farming speed set.
It’s not supposed to only be that. Bliz have been saying in interviews for the last two weeks everyone’s supposed to want it.
Also is it really catch up when it’s worse than 405 ilvl rings in most scenarios for a lot of people? You could get a work order JC ring that beats it.
Very strange they put this ring in the game, all the stones and didnt even seemingly check if it would be an upgrade for people. 1 day before the patch…ah let us know if it’s not good.
Buff by 100%, let us have some fun with it then make the stones dead for season 2. If you’re going to put it in the game, make it noticeable
I did not bothered to equip it. Or, do the questline for it on alt. Already know its not worth it at the moment.
Equiv to 365 ring for Frost Mage. Absolute junk.
If I give up a 415 ring I lose like 1200 of my two best stats. You need a ton of “on effect” things to make up for that.
They made it “Noticeable” by making sure it was optional content that will be obsolete in patch 10.1. It is one of those go do this (hold me over) content until the big patch comes out.
For my alts this will be a nice ring, however for my main not so much. I will however go and do this content because I need my achievement berries.
You literally said that if they say they’re going to do it they’ll do it. They said they’re going to do this. That’s not speculation.
Until Ion says, “Hey guys, looks like the rings are not doing well, expect a buff soon.” Then dont expect a buff at all. Ion is notorious for staring at spreadsheets and showing a huge disconnect with what is actually going on with the community…
“The Annulet and Primordial Stones, once fully upgraded, should be relevant and should be an upgrade for basically everyone. That’s part of why it spans multiple item levels and has multiple effects. it should be something that’s worth chasing for everyone.”
How much more obvious does this have to be made? It’s literally been two days since this patch dropped. Chill.
HAHAHA they cant even get the tool tips correct!
those interns
I am not saying they will not, I am just saying its not guarantied until we see it in writing. So dont hold your breath. Be hopeful, yes. But do not place your money on it… That is all I am saying…
I am sitting on a good chunk of Unstable Elementium myself and not upgrading the gems till I see something from Blizz. Hence, still hopeful, but also skeptical.
Okay, here you go.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/changes-to-primordial-stones/1552280
Are you finally satisfied?
Actually very happy…
Its kinda funny how this ring is simultaneously useless garbage that no one wants and also fomo borrowed power youre required to spend weeks grinding just to be able to do content. Seems no matter what blizZard does theyre the badguy.
I agree it needs to be buffed, just making an observation on the fun that is the wow community when anything happens.
Some people don’t like the ring, some people do but the ring is weak and they want it buffed; it’s not like the community is one collective mass that agrees on everything, it’s actually the opposite. So of course there are going to be differing opinions across the forums.
Item level to item level. Its still simming lower on my BM Hunter then compared to a crafted ring of same item level (I used 418 for both for an apples to apples comparison). Only thing the ring really has going for it is that it goes to 424, which is higher then I am going to get on hunter since I just leveled it up just a week and half ago.
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But at least its not simming below a 392 ring again LOL…
The problem with this methodology is, unlike stats, the gems don’t have universal value across target counts or situations.
Sure in pure st it might be a smidge better, but those ST gems don’t scale at all with targets, and the AoE gems are horrific on single target.
So while sure, they might have successfully made it the tiniest bit better on single target, you’re still not going to use it anywhere except terros.
I currently agree. Think the intent is to let players have multiple rings for multiple encounters. But I am still hoping that they add some secondary stats to the ring its self. Though I doubt it will happen.