I’m sure this is the case.
Cov go read a book and learn something before returning to the conversation plz.
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My daughter just got a bunch of Dr. Seuss books, I’ll hang with her for a bit.
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Traps dispel able, binding shot root dispel able
explosive trap and scatter shot is the only real way to get away, learn the classes before saying dumb stuff like no counterplay.
Binding is not dispellable.
Its really funny talk about kyrian rogues.
Just check them with your SS then when you confirm you can spend your intimidatio on them, then you can just root them… thats why they are fine, they are just ok.
Did i mention they are killing people in 3 seconds without the aid of their partner?
Even 2 seconds if they get aid of partners.
im dying in 2 seconds and you are asking me to check and wait their cloak of shadows in order to stun them afterwards (a stun that can be trinketed in less than a second).
But of course, the problem is the people that are being globaled, not kyrian rogues XD
I’ve seen every single class complain about almost every class within 1 week of slands.
Most balanced wow has been in years I guess 
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Binding Shot - Spell - World of Warcraft (wowhead.com)
its a magic root buddy.
It probably is yeah if you’re playing SV especially
SV Hunters are really good at dealing with sub rogues, especially if you’re dealing with a 1v1
It is. Pointless to mention though since he’s SV anyways
Only if they pop every CD, you can trade your 3 minute turtle for their 3 minute shadowblades in that situation 
Ok since you know rogues can kill you, you should be already ready to react anyways if they pop every CD
In which case 2 seconds actually is plenty of time to do something
Make a weakaura or something for shadowblades if you need to that plays a foghorn effect but yeah should be fine if you just use stuff and rotate petsac too which is really amazing vs symbols now
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This kid doens’t know what he is talking about.
Its not only dispellable but rogues can do it in two different manners consecutively, which means that even if i had 2 roots they CAN get off it.
I think your best bet is to not try when you see a rogue on the enemy team. Don’t give them the pleasure of your defeat. Clearly there is nothing you can do to defeat them so deny their satisfaction of winning and just leave the arena.
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Serious question, are you playing shadowlands?
You keep repeating “SV just beat rogues” so im curious if you understand that kyrian rogues are killing people in 3 seconds and evasion disable hunters damage and stun for 10 seconds.
I don’t know if its a recent change, but evasion DOES nullify intimidation.
You’re a really good player, whose knowledge about the game exceeds most people on these forums. However, it really seems like you just want to argue for the sake of arguing. Many of your responses come across as one who’s more interested in being right than one attempting to have an honest conversation about the state of the game.
Edit: typos
U know sv hunter hard counters rogues since like the dawn of time right?
Exactly same feeling, after his statement that kyrian rogues are ok and the problem are the people that are dying in 3 seconds in a stunlock… i lost any interest in a serious debate.
He is mainly rogue or some rogue friend is playing with him, thats just logic deduction.
Yes
Yeah the evasion thing I just tested it, they must have recently hotfixed/changed it, all of BfA and prepatch intimidation still went through evasion, even while leveling I could intimidation it
You just would trap on evasion instead then, not really the biggest deal, same response you have as MM really - just don’t use scatter during evasion and use trap instead, if they commit cloak then you can just trade your turtle etc.
If they cloak evasion it’s the same exact trade as aspect of the turtle
I have no problem admitting I’m wrong, but you yourself said I have far more knowledge about the game than most players that post here. Anyone with close to the same experience as me has been saying the same things as I have too. Hunters are good vs sub rogues
Hunter is my main and my main partner for years has been a feral druid rofl.
It’s just CD trading man, using trinket turtle or just trinket trap on shadow blades is absolutely fine
Then you can petsac the next go which means you won’t die, gives you enough time to either turtle/trap them and exhil/mending bandage reset
If you manage to get a clean feign camo at any point with a hunters mark on the rogue it’s also just over too.
I just said you should be able to live as a hunter unless you make a mistake. Also said being nelf makes it slightly harder for yourself but still not impossible once you know what to do.
I just pop all my cds and yolo on their face
use your defensives offensively…sadly.
Rogue is a free win against a survival hunter with a brain tbh. Survival just has so many tools for ruining their goes, it’s glorious.
I cannot beat sub rogues be damned,
I cannot beat them Sam I am
I cannot beat them with a gun
I cannot beat them with a stun
I cannot beat them with a trap
I do not have a double tap
I cannot beat them when they dance
It would be worse if I played enhance
I cannot hit them through their smoke
I cannot hit them in their cloak
I cannot beat them here or there
I cannot beat them anywhere
I cannot beat sub rogues be damned
I cannot beat them Sam I am
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What is the context of this? Referring to beta PvP or week 2 of SL? Do you honestly believe you’re acting in good faith by ignoring the prevailing sentiment of this thread and many others–that damage is currently over the top for some classes? I don’t have to understand the nuances of hunter vs rogue play to understand that dying within a few globals of an opener is silly, and I can relate to the frustrations. If memory serves, Button Bashers’ (Loaded Black?) RMP beat (Complexity Black?)'s beast cleave in Wrath when everyone else got deleted (Venruki goes down!). Does that mean beast cleave wasn’t obscene?
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