Dead Sea effect in LFR, need personal loot

LFR is getting really miserable. You can’t even roll on transmog items most of the time, and when you can and you win, you get death threats from “casual” players who grind dozens of hours a week on solo content.

This leads to the most skilled players passing on the mode altogether, not even using the bosses as target dummies to practice their damage rotation. Then the remaining most skilled players get tired of carrying and leave as well, and after a couple of years of that you arrive at today: My ilvl 645 tank alt tops the damage meters on bosses, and we’re flirting with the enrage timers constantly. The bosses’ mechanics are all nerfed to the point where it’s nearly impossible to fail even with such a bad group, so it’s just this terrible hours-long slog.

Switching back to personal loot would be an easy fix here. It would give some normal/heroic raiders an excuse to queue up again and let “casual” players see what they could accomplish with a few hours’ targeted practice.

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The solution to this is to make the social environment more welcoming so people play outside of pushing. Folks don’t log off when they can hang out with their friends and relax.

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have you considered reporting them? then they enjoy their nice long permanent vacation from wow.

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No thanks, I don’t want a return to this type of harassment culture in LFR.

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LFR is legit the only group instance content (aside from M+ i guess) where I think personal loot is a good thing. Otherwise it’s just basically the wild west, need everything regardless of anything.

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Lfr was designed to tell the story. It was never meant to be anything more than that.

Basically what I’m saying is that lfr shouldn’t have a recolor, it should just be the same as normal

people dont remember why the loot changed away from Personal Loot.

p.s we have storymode now so LFR could be deleted.

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Sure, getting more people banned is totally the solution to not having enough players in LFG. What could go wrong?

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dont make illegal death threats then. your lucky police dont show up at your door. making death threats gets you arrested irl bro. but nah lets let player commit irl crimes because they’re mad.

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No one said anything about death threats that I saw, weirdo.

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apparently you didnt read. or cant.

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I did miss that part… that’s kind of messed up.

Of course I can read, no need to be sassy. People get tired, you know.

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Last few runs, had half a dozen people just instantly die, accept rez die straight away again and just stay dead.

I call it out as to kick the AFKs and no one gives a ____.
Personally I dont try very hard in LFR myself but will end up in the top DPS with just Auto attacks, a couple of abilities and dodging mechanics.

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I calling extreme shenanigans on this.

And now I know you’re trolling. A wing of LFR doesn’t take an hour.

No. This fixes nothing. Just stop with the drama.

You’re the one who got snarky first and then called them a “weirdo” because you missed a part in the OP. Look to thine own self.

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Can you do one where Everyone rolls need and then people start fighting about someone in mythic gear winning a Veteran item?

Eh… a little sass is healthy. The community would be a lot more fun if it wasn’t so discouraged to express frustration or displeasure.

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Sure, I’m snarky all the time. But you can’t act all offended when you started it. lol

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That was basically what Personal Loot was. Just you never had a choice on what you rolled and the roll was done internally.

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I’m not actually offended LOL. It’s weird hanging out in WoW communities in general… it takes 1000x what’s said here to cause me even the start of offense.

I don’t say offensive things really, so I still fit in OK, but it’s awkward to watch other people get attacked for saying things that seem pretty reasonable.