Dawntrail is Currently Better Than The War Within

I disagree, Dawntrail is on the same path has the previous 3 expansions and if it wasnt for mods i would be unsubbed from FFxiv.

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Class balance is <14% top to bottom for average DPS perfomance. Can you point us to a point in time the game was more balanced?

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Would play FF14 but I don’t have the willpower of sitting through that MSQ for 3 months.

I’m not a lore guy at all.

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lol OK, pal. We all know dawntrails are government weather control things.

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Dawntrail has consistency in design quality. I have not picked up the new jobs in that expansion and thought that they were haphazardly designed like 11.0 Dark Ranger or Flameshaper Devastation Evoker.

Additionally, I’ve seldom encountered tech errors in the overworld of FFXIV ever. Their attention to detail when it comes to quality assurance is a gold standard for subscription based MMOs.

Flameshaper Devastation Evoker (which was mentioned in the OP) says hello. That’s only one example of an absolute embarrassment of hero talent design. It’s garbage! What more needs to be said?

I quit because I got tired of the slogfest MSQ. Doesn’t erase how much farther ahead they are in the balancing and QA department.

It has consistency because its always the same.

The same stack marker, the same aoe circle. There have been at least 3 fights that use the “shiva” mechanic - to the point where its just called the “shiva” mechanic and you will know what im talking about.

Maybe the boss fight room will be a circle… oops its a square this time… woo.

FF14 takes no real risks, i don’t see them ever innovating and the “same” fatigue is starting to set into people (or at least the people i talk to). I’m off the mind that to continue FF14 needs to evolve somehow.

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:yawning_face:

You can do better than that.

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that’s what they said. Same as the last 3.

Also i would like to note: what was the last capstone dungeon (60/70/80/90/100) dungeons WASNT: 2 trash packs, wall, 2 trash packs, boss. repeat 3-4 times.

You’re twisting the meaning of what I said. Let me be clear:

When I say consistency in design quality, I’m referring to minimal bugs/errors across the game in its entirety.

If a game still feels like a beta test (The War Within) then its design quality is inconsistent and there needs to be talent revisions.

This has nothing to do with what I mentioned. We are operating off of two very different understandings of design quality.

You’re right. They aren’t risk takers and perhaps that’s a major flaw. That being said, they deliver expansions with minimal errors. At the end of the day, their game doesn’t feel like a bugged, ill-tuned broken mess.

i mean FFXIV been superior to WoW for years now, XIV dethroning it as top MMO years ago (with WoW struggling to even attempt to remain in XIV’s shadow) proved as much.

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The issue with FFXIV is that I don’t wanna play 150+ hours of a single player jRPG with only bits and pieces of a MMO before I can fully engage with the MMO.

Especially when I can just play some of the mainline FF games that are better than at least the first ~50 hours of that, and are specifically designed for that kind of storytelling.

That and the combat is jank and the class fantasy is weak.

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Can you elaborate on this? I carry an opposite view. For the most part, I enjoy their job fantasy and my only critique is that they don’t take risks by introducing tier set bonuses or talent paths.

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7.0 was pretty rough, 7.1 is pretty good, no clue about TWW lol.

Class balance is easy when each class in each role is functionally and numerically the same I suppose. They did finally break the mold somewhat with Picto and Viper atleast.

I’m pretty sure most WoW players would prefer the chaos over FF14’s stagnation.

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Dawn trail has no redeeming value to me.

that’s great you love FFXIV and you do nothing but troll the wow forums.

but like

move on

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I find this strangely poetic - I might steal that saying.

I prefer the the more fast paced and build focused nature of WoW, but I also enjoy the stability of FFXIV.

Something in between would be great. I don’t want a world where only half a class or spec is viable due to deadline constraints (or cost cutting).

Dawntrail is one of the worst content updates seen in gaming in general. It’s garbage and I refunded mine and closed my ffxiv account due to it.

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i am not sure what you are mumbling personally i play both games . enjoy life brother