Your argument is literally “I can’t get high rating because other specs/classes are stronger than mine” when there is LITERAL evidence that hunters are represented at high rating.
Good luck my friend.
Arena is for mongos. All you do, largely, is blow your burst, try to live through enemy burst, then wait for your burst to come back. There is skill for 3s, but 2s is like Spongebob and Patrick flailing their arms at each other while screaming.
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How is encouraging players to improve their own gameplay before they blame the game for losing, elitism?
What?
The fact that a protection paladin is sitting at #5 is all the evidence you need that this season is out of wack.
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No. There’s a huge difference between fire mages and frost mages as just one example. Fire mages don’t even need to CC or silence a healer during their burst. It takes way less coordination.
They all perform the same role yet there’s only one viable spec out of the three. If that isn’t an indication that there are imbalances, this conversation is never going anywhere, because that’s dead proof right there.
This is a horrible example, being that druids have two amazing specs right now (balance and feral). Why are both of those specs as viable as the other if it should only be one?
You’re making my point for me. Priests are in a great place and frost/arcane mages aren’t. This is exhibit A of imbalances.
I don’t even think you understand your point.
That’s complete nonsense, especially when other classes have viable specs of the same category. How do you explain how druids have feral/boomkin and mages only have fire?
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Really? That’s your argument…because a prot paladin is in the top 5 then the game is retarded?
How narrow minded are you?
In the top 30 3v3 Arena ladderboards there are 10 classes each represented…
I actually never made that argument once in this entire thread, I am not complaining about my ratings, nor have I complained once in this entire thread about them. Ive only mentioned ratings to mock you who consistently drops his 2700 in MOP and current 1800 CR.
Didn’t you say there’s nothing wrong with balance druid cause there’s only one in the top 30? Isn’t that the same flow of logic?
Your argument is that because Frost/Arcane aren’t on the same level as Fire then the game isn’t balanced? Despite Frost/Arcane/Fire all performing the same role as caster dps?
Whereas a druid has 3 roles Healer/Caster dps/Melee dps?
What kind of logic even is that?
I never said the game was retarded, that seems to be a bit of projection there.
There is nothing wrong with balance druid because there is one in the top 30? Are you arguing that there should be more in top 30? Less in the top 30?
The argument about the prot paladin being in top 5 is referencing the guy who said “The game is busted because there is a prot paladin in the top 5” How does that make it busted? It’s more spec/class/comp diversity?
You guys are like the gatekeepers on what is “meant to be strong and what isn’t”. In reality, everything is healthily represented so this idea that some specs are stronger than others is not even vaguely appropriate?
Mudskipper - You said this season is out of whack because there is a prot paladin in the top 5? How exactly does that make it out of whack?
Did you look at the top 30? Or even the top 100? Or did you just see a prot paladin and immediately thought “nah this game is terrible”.
You cannot be that narrow minded.
Not everyone plays one of the specs doing well in arena and newsflash…people shouldn’t have to play specs they don’t enjoy just to compete.
Fire mages doing well doesn’t mean anything to a frost mage, just like sub rogues doing well doesn’t mean anything to assassination. I mained a holy priest and all I ever heard was “just go disc”. I hate disc, if I wanted to dps to heal I would’ve played a dps.
I play with a HPriest at 2300 mmr in 2s…
They shouldn’t have to change their “role” to compete. They should definitely have to changed their specs if one isn’t viable.
A frost mage switching to fire because frost isn’t viable isn’t the same as a resto druid switching to feral because resto isn’t viable.
Frost mages and fire mages both perform the same role, just in a different rotation and setup, they both are caster dps obviously.
Going from a healer to a melee dps in order to remain competitive is vastly different to going from 1 caster dps spec to another caster dps spec of the same class.
Blizzard will never achieve pure game balance on every single spec in the game…it’s not possible.
That’s correct. It’s only one example of this but yes.
Pretty simple logic. The druid class has two viable DPS specs, mages have one viable DPS spec. How can you possibly come to the conclusion that frost/arcane mages are on par with fire mages if that’s the case?
I’m saying there is no need to make frost/arcane viable if fire is viable but there is a need to make a resto druid viable if feral/moonkin are viable.
Why is this so hard to understand?
Anyways, I’m heading to the gym to you know…go and improve myself.
Good luck forum friends. I hope one day we can see eye to eye on contentious topics such as this, even though I think the vast majority of great players will agree with my argument more so than all of yours.
How about you roll your eyes on your main, so we can judge what kind of a washed player you are? 
WoW is nowhere near a good state. WoW is at its best when kills take setup, cc chains, cooldown trading.
If the setup doesnt work and it requires dampening to win, like BFA, its trash. When you dont even need setup and can just mash all your buttons, like SL, its also trash.
Just because its better than BFA, that doesnt make SL any good by default.
The best PvP is in the middle. Not on both extremes here. I dunno, SL just isnt pinnacle WoW PvP to me. Its definitely not as bad as Dampening BFA-like games, but that doesnt make it good, either. It has its own problems.
Theres still too many “WTF” moments and outliers that exist right now for it to be some amazing pvp.
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There’s technically “No need” to have feral and moonkin both be viable then by your logic, but they are. And we’re not talking about needs, we’re talking about whether the game is balanced or not, and your arguing that it’s balanced.
Because you’re changing the subject. We’re talking about balance, not whether there’s an absolute necessity to make all specs viable. The fact that frost/arcane aren’t as viable as fire is a clear indication that balance doesn’t exist, and I’ve yet to hear you counter that with your arguments.
I’m just tired of the same stuff. I don’t know how people are still doing 2’s.
I think I’d like it if they brought back 5’s or just scrapped arena altogether and did like 6v6 RBG’s. The great thing about a battle ground is that you can get globalled and just have to wait to respawn.
Bring back 5’s. Give each team 2 or 3 stocks. I want something different
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