I agree with most of the points, but this is not accurate. It has been awhile since I have done the quest and it is only available during the Alliance Assault on Zandalar event.
If I am recalling correctly, you swipe an egg/some eggs from nests. Power up the ritual by slaying other raptors and t-rexes, then corrupt the egg/eggs into the Void T-Rex.
It really comes off as a reverse ritual from the badlands that brought about Wrathion as an uncorrupted Black Dragon.
And if they did it well, they would have made something of the fact that it was the Alliance that broke that treaty due to falling for the Legionâs trick. But no, for some reason itâs presented as a valid point that the Alliance was angry at the horde for basically saving their butts on the Broken shore by sounding a retreat when they realized it was a trap.
Yes, but also no. Sylvanas clearly had autonomy here. Garrosh said no Blight. She used it anyway. Garrosh said stop raising icky undead. She raised them anyway. Garrosh wanted a port city. Sylvanas pushed well past that goal of Hilneas, through Hillsbrad, and into Arathi.
Garrosh had blame to be sure. But Dylvanas clearly has some too, and Gilneas is among it.
Besides, âjust following ordersâ only works for the Horde when they also have a rebellion and promise to be good after.
Not saying sheâs innocent or anything. But what I never understood is, Lordaeron itself has a literal shipyard. Because where else were the forsaken hiding their ships? Why would Garrosh need another one? With Quelâthalas also in the eastern kingdoms, that you know, also has a shipyard .
Iâll admit my memory is sketchy on the details, but I think youâre right.
BUT!!!
Iâd still hesitate to call it dark. Shoving energy into a beast to make it kill for you? Also not new or unusual. The fact itâs void might kick it to grey, but⌠I mean warlocks exist as a playable class. Weâve mutated animals in horrific experiments for any goblin or gnome who asks. We burn or blow up egg nests on the regular.
On Azeroth, void-dino is only slightly outside the norm.
The myserious Forsaken Shipyard presumably exists somewhere along the Tirisfal coast in lore (though obviously not in-game) and Garry likely wanted one closer to Stormwind as a staging ground for attacks. It makes a sort of sense; Gilneas is not only closer, but any Forsaken ships would have to sail past Gilneas anyway, and Gilneas as a port could aid in blockading Menethil Harbor, and all of Hillsbrad and Arathi.
But it makes more sense if Garrosh wanted a shipyard and Sylvanas was like âwell, Gilneas happens to have one, soâŚâ Because if Sylvanas is planning to control Hillsbrad (which she was and did) through Silverpine, then Gilneas really does have to go; itâs sat right on the edge of both, has oceanic access for bringing in support, and is already hostile to the Forsaken. The Cataclysm weakened Gilneas, so why not swoop in and smash whateverâs left? More territory, more potential bodies for raising, Garroshâs shipyard, one less enemy in the region, and a potential buffer against an Alliance attack from Stormwind or Ironforge against the Undercity.
Of course, none of this worked out. But it does make more sense that way.
Does anyone know who Afrasiabiâs favorite WoW character/s was? We know Danuser and Kosak are/were Sylvanas stans (to put it politely). Metzen has Thrall, but dialed back the favoritism while still keeping his regard for the character. I think Kilgoreâs or Hazzikostasâ was Illidan, but I could be wrong.
That does not sound like the Alliance! Like at all! Like it or not the Alliance were always the group who did not care about expansionism(with maybe the only exception being Lordearon but that is a whole other box of wrosm). Also, do you really think Jaina, Magni or even Varian would be all into wiping out entire encampments, including children. These are the same people who VOTE TO SPARE the Horde.
Alot of things in the modern Alliance dont align with it thematically anymore. Heck, the draenei were literal demons. Worgens still have some feral bite to them while still trying to keep their humanity, the dark iron are in a state of trying to clean up their act.
Oh please, the Horde fans arguable do something worse and claim that Taurajo is a justification for everything bad that happens to the Alliance(even though Hawthorne tried his best to keep civilian casualities to a minumum as oppose to whatever the hell Garrosh/Sylvanas wanted)
I really adore the idea of the worgen and forsaken being allies, a snarky relationship where both sides are likely fight each and their enemies at the same time
Regarding Alliance expansionism; itâs already present as of Exploring Kalimdor. Theyâre rebuilding the base in Durotar, for the exact reasons Iâm describing. But I agree, it wouldnât make sense for this to be an Anduin-sanctioned act. More like the actions of a faction within the Alliance.
Again, as pointed out in my original post, the hypothetical example was something I came up with over the course of one minute to debunk the idea that an Alliance doing villainous things requires making the Horde a victim. It doesnât need to be the case at all. And it doesnât even need to be about the Alliance vs the Horde.
The Dwarves were expantionist in vanilla.
And the Alliance has to be more proactive in its own defences and interests.
Right now Alliance just feeds its own people into the horde meatgrinder until the Horde realizes for the nth time that killing. Is bad !!!
Its an alliance for protection, whats the point if it fails this basic function?